They are fun movies but they do boggle the imagination a bit.
Like can anyone stay at the Continental or do you need to be an assassin and pay with those big gold coins where everything from a whiskey neat, rebuilding a smashed Ford Mustang, a room at the Continental (plus incidentals) to Wick’s entire tactical load costs exactly one coin.
What does “getting out” even look like for John Wick? Does he have any other skills? Even the security guard for his housing complex knows what he does for a living. I assume it’s the same retirement plan of every other action character where they bum around their big house working their hobbies like chopping wood or keeping bees or whatever until they are inevitably fucked with and called back into their old life (which he was).
But it would be like Harry Potter if every third human was a wizard and every city had a Hogwarts in the middle of Downtown and instead of taking a secret train, wizards would just get into wand fights on the Acela or Eurorail or whatever.
At the beginning of the first film after the Russian assault team invades his home and he kills them all, a police officer does show up at his door. Knows John by first name. Sees a body in the hallway. Asks, “Working again?” and Wick replies, “Just working some things out.” The cop then just walks away. That seems to imply that the police know everything and intentionally just stay out of the way.
There are cops in the Continental TV show as well. The implication seems to be that the smart cops stay out of it (and/or moonlight as assassins themselves).
That’s kind of the point I was making. It’s not shown in the movies and barely touched at in the books but the Wizarding World would have to be much vaster than we see. We only see only a slice. We see wizard Eton but not the rest of the wizard education system including the higher learning. In the books the Minister of Magic reveals himself to the Prime Minister to tell him wizard Hitler is back. We are told one of the things that happens when you become PM is you learn about wizards. So I guess all world leaders find out. In WWI Newt Scarmander worked with dragons on the Eastern Front. WWI had dragons. If you start thinking about it deeper there is no way the two worlds could be side by side. You have to leave logic at the door and just enjoy it
The few times that Voldemort or one of his dark wizards gets in a fight and blows up a street full of muggles, it gets blamed on a gas explosion in the muggle world. Maybe that goes for the John Wick universe, too. Every night on the news they list the last few places he’s been to and describe the horrible industrial accidents that occurred there.
The world of John Wick is our real life world viewed through the lens of a paranoid schizophrenic psychopath, the title character. It’s literally a crazed man’s world.
There are many movies where the “world” doesn’t make any kind of sense.
The poster child is “Pitch Black.” It’s a great movie, but the ecology of that planet is impossible.
In the world of John Wick, if you are declared excommunicado that means no one in that society is allowed to help you. Unless you’re asking your old instructor and you’re holding a special object, in which case they have to. But only once. Unless you ask again and accept the task they give you. If somehow there’s a fifth movie we’ll find out you can ask a third time, but that will definitely be the last time. Until the sixth movie.
None of that bothered me. The people helped him either did so out of a sense of loyalty to him or to clear old debts and those people were punished for their assistance. They made choices to put friendship or honor above the rules and got punished by the rules for breaking them.
It was more silly how the Table automatically knew about every infraction (“You gave him NINE bullets…") but that was just part of why JW3 was the weakest film in my opinion. I get that it was supposed to portray them as all-knowing but… eh.
Also if someone holds your marker (a physical representation of a blood oath Wick made), they can cash in on a favor under pain of death. Except the “favor” was to assassinate a member of the High Table.
So does Santino get a pass for that and just gets to hide out in the Continental forever? Look at all the firepower they sent against John just for killing Santino on Continental grounds!
And this is what makes the films great. They lean in so hard, I mean so fucking hard to the action genre, they just peel away everything superfluous and leave you with all the fan service and some of the best action sequences ever committed to film.
I think in terms of set pieces my favorite is the combat sequence in the museum of weapons. I think that was JW3.
I’ll keep watching them as long as they make them.
I fully agree. I was just struck by the realization that you’d seemingly be more likely to live a relatively normal civilian life in a Marvel superhero movie than in a Wick movie
I have likened it to Harry Potter but with crime instead of Magic. There is a secret world of crime that runs alongside the rest of world and only a select few know about it or take part in it but it has its own rules and culture.
I’ve tried watching a couple of these that went by on cable. My corollary question to the OP title would be “With no prior knowledge of the series, should I expect to be able to sit down and watch one of these and have any idea what the hell’s going on? Or just enjoy the ridiculous over-the-top carnage?”
Aside from John Wick’s backstory as a retired assassin whose wife (Bridget Moynahan) died offscreen from cancer, I don’t think there is actually much “going on” aside from the ridiculous over-the-top carnage.
Mostly it follows typical gangster action movie tropes like you would expect in a typical Tarantino film or the various genres his films borrow from, spy movie, or maybe even a videogame like GTA. Wick has various allies and characters allude to different events and and agreements and organizations and whatnot. There are various characters who are out to get him or at least not get killed by him or bring him back under the purview of the “High Table” (their assassin leadership structure)
In fact, the films do mostly follow the same plot structure one might find in a videogame.
Cut scene where John loses his puppy/car/house or exposition by Winston or some “big bad” setting John Wick in motion.
Load up at The Continental.
John Wick spends the next 10 minutes fighting through an army of mooks to reach the next McGuffin or to talk to / kill some person.