You and me both.
All the left wingers I know think that Biden was basically a Nazi and no better than Trump. Same for Kamala. Liberals (aka “liberal ghouls”) to them are just Nazi enablers at best, if not outright Nazis wearing masks.
I’m pretty left wing. My view of Biden is that he’s a pretty classic Centrist Democrat who has some views to the left, some to the right, and mostly spent four years trying to get Trump 45’s mess cleaned up, but failed. The worst thing I can say about him is that he favored received wisdom over new information, which informed his reaction to Israel / Palestine. It’s the same issue others described above that led him to assign Garland to this role. He was just unable to see that things really had gotten to the point that old norms and ways weren’t going to cut it—as indeed they didn’t.
The way I see it part of the problem with Biden Disappointment is forgetting how big it loomed around his candidacy and election that the mission WAS ’bring “normal” back’ . So that was what they focused upon.
Maybe because sleepy Joe was, in fact, sleeping at the wheel along with his whole ineffective administration? Like Hindenburg, Chamberlain and the other “civilized” bumblers who enabled Hitler.
Maybe because his term in office will go down as that which laid the groundwork of the end of the USA as a democracy.
Trump didn’t get so much traction because the democrats did such an awesome job. They (still) behave like the Kremlin in the 80’s. Too many old folks who keep insisting everything is fine and are actively working against their would be successors. There is a good reason most folks retire at some point, we do not get smarter as we get older.
“Sleepy Joe” was working to clean up the mess of the first Trump administration. His mistake was assuming that that was a one-off, and that Republicans were interested in the welfare of the USA. That has more to do with when Biden’s formative years in politics were than his age per se.
That seems fair to me. But @The_Librarian has a point about Hindenberg, Chamberlain et al----arguably they and Biden had in common a hopeful belief that ‘things would get back to normal’ and that ‘most’ people with the power to do something, would choose to do pro-democracy, anti-autocracy things.
Instead, of course, Republicans (like many powerful Germans of the 1930s) anticipated personal profit to be made by enabling the autocrat.
Yeah. The Democrats have been living in a fantasy of bipartisanship and a “return to normalcy” for many years (and still largely are), long past the point where it was anything other than a fantasy.
Garland was one more instance of them trying to ignore problems until they went away, and they didn’t go away. And here we are.
Yes, both sides are at fault. One side does terrible things and the other fails to stop them. Very useful.
It’s not useful, since one side does terrible things and the other is useless. And useless is the opposite of useful.
The Democrats desperately want to submit to the Republicans, and that’s not helping anyone.
Yeah, and he did and awesome job.
He just forgot to lock up the guy who made the mess.
He allowed the fucking SS (what’s in a name!) to delete their texts. - tell me how that is not sleeping at the wheel. Those should have been ordered on someone desk on 1/6 in the evening: maybe 1/7 in the morning.
The whole deleting of all communications in that day should have made heads roll. Instead the geriatric crew let it slide.
Compare the US reaction to Trump’s coup (read Jack Smith’s remarks and tell me it wasn’t a coup) to the Brazilian reaction to Bolsenaro’s coup.- then tell me the Biden people weren’t asleep at the wheel. And their supporters still in massive denial about how bad asleep they actually were. The Biden people assumed office like they were replacing Obama II - they simply couldn’t grasp the fact that the other guys weten playing fair. As if they simply hadn’t read a paper in 4 years.
No Trump is robbing your house because he is a crook.
Biden didn’t lock up your house because he was a doddering geriatric.
I see the difference quite clearly. No “both sides” from me.
I just grow exasperated with the failure of the DNC to reform, throw out the geriatrics and get on with the job at hand - effectively opposing Trump.
Right now they can’t organize themselves to vote against funding ICE. If that doesn’t show you the depths of their organizational failures nothing wil.
By Trump?
You are right.
That should be January 20
I think it’s reasonable to assign blame to the only people capable of stopping the Republicans as well as the Republicans themselves. It’s not “both sides are the same,” it’s “both sides are a problem.” It’s like complaining about your breakfast when the eggs are a little too runny and the toast is full-on fascist. It would still be nice if the eggs were better.
That’s fair. If a murderer goes free because cops screw up the investigation and ruin the evidence that would convict the murderer, the cops don’t get a pass because at least they didn’t murder anyone. Blame isn’t an all-or-nothing concept, and blaming more than one party doesn’t imply that the blame is equally shared and deserved.
They weren’t; they were in active denial, as is the longstanding practice of the Democrats. If it was just being “asleep”, they’d eventually learn better, but since they are in denial the Democrats never learn no matter how often reality slaps them in the face.
And we all know that the best way to stop fascists is to assign appropriate blame to all involved.
The point of this thread is that no effort was made to stop them.
Throwing millions of tons of bombs on folks who claim they didn’t know and couldn’t do anything about it is the traditional way of stopping fascism.
You could try voting some people into the opposition other than the geriatrics that are living their best lives in the status quo.
Or wait for the bombs