Face Off Season 8

Season 8 of Face Off is here. Ve is back. In their continuous quest to keep things new and different, they added a new dynamic to this season. They brought back Rayce, Anthony, and Laura to serve as mentors for the contestants. They are also competing by selecting teams from the contestants, so each mentor is working their team of 5.

Episodes 1 and 2 was a 2 parter to set up the season. The first Foundation Challenge had the contestants make a companion character to one of the mentor’s iconic characters. Then the mentors got to select their teams of 5.

The Spotlight Challenge was announced with Rick Baker brought in as a guest judge. The challenge was to select an alien crash site and then design two aliens from that crash. After the teams got going, the next day they were given a surprise additional challenge: a third alien based on a primate that was native to the planet and not happy with the new arrivals. They were also given an extra day because of the surprise addition.

Overall, Rayce’s team did the best job. Two of their three aliens were highlighted for Top Looks. They had an insectoid alien that was really good, and their monkey alien got praise for lots of smart details. I was a bit iffy on their monkey alien, it didn’t quite read monkey to me. It was supposed to be modeled on a spider monkey, but the face didn’t feel right to me. But it was a successful and otherwise intriguing character.

One of Laura’s team’s aliens also got praise for the creative look and the good paint job.

The disasters came from Gregory (team Laura) and Ben (team Anthony). They also put Kelly (team Anthony) in Bottom looks, but I think that was just to round out to three. Yes, her sculpt had issues, but it wasn’t the level of badness that was attached to Ben and Gregory.

Ben tried to sculpt alien hands that turned out very bad, they looked dreadful and detracted from the makeups. But he had some other contribution that wasn’t so bad. Gregory was pretty much the sole driving force on the monkey alien for their team. He was supposed to sculpt a capuchin monkey face, but it really was bad both in sculpt and in paint. The thing is Laura even talked to him during the sculpt and gave him critique that his monkey face didn’t look like a monkey, but he didn’t listen to her. And that’s what the judges slammed him on. Since he was the one who was largely responsible for so much that went bad, they offed him instead of Ben.

It’s way early to make any calls.

I find it funny that every season, I am perplexed by my inability to keep any of the contestants straight in my head during the early episodes, when there are a lot of them.

It’s nice to see Laura, Rayce, and Anthony back (Laura is my all-time favorite).

I agreed that Team Rayce did very well. I wasn’t entirely convinced their monkey was that much like a monkey, but one of the judges mentioned it was believable as an alien monkey, so okay, I could buy that.

I agree with Gregory getting the boot, because that monkey was awful.

The show included more bickering among the contestants than usual; it still wasn’t very much, but one of the best things about this show is that they hardly ever use interpersonal conflict as the driver of the episodes, so I hope this isn’t changing.

I might have missed this during the explaining part of the show, but are they going to keep the same teams throughout the season? What if one team is down to one person, competing against a team of five?

I enjoyed this opener. We actually watched them both on the aired nights, although still a bit delayed. First time we have done that but we were really looking forward to this show’s return!

I do like how they are changing it up with the Champions as I like all three of them. However. I’m confused by the format and hope to learn more as the season progresses. Are they directing the team? Or just advisers? Because it felt like Rayce was in charge and telling his team what to do. We didn’t see much of Anthony and then Laura felt like mostly an adviser but still helped with some design? So, I’m hoping to see more of that and get a feel for what they Champions’ roles are.

(My wife thought it would be interesting if they have a season where they bring back middle to bottom contenders, but maybe not all the way bottom, and give them a second chance. I think that would be fun!)

I think I wanted Ben to go because he was getting snippy with another person. Both my wife and I were hoping that kind of drama would be done because we haven’t had that in six seasons! (As delphica mentioned.) I also thought that keeping the hands showed poor decision making as well as not reacting to the situation with another plan. However, I can’t fault either choice as they both didn’t do well.

In speaking to that, I often wonder if the judges should give points instead of high/low and drop three people every third show based on points? The idea being to give everyone three chances between eliminations to show what they can do? I think this might also help when some contestants have had no idea about the topic at hand. Seems like in the real world, someone wouldn’t take that job! Or would get a lot more input at all phases by the client, which they don’t do on the show.

Overall, happy with the start of the new season!

delphica: I agree in trying to keep them all straight so early! It doesn’t help that I fast forward right away until just after they are shown in credits, to avoid any spoilers for the season!

edg

Ben got snippy rather than trying to be helpful to get it done. Hopefully either he gets over it, or he gets gone.

The mentors have selected a team of five to sponsor. They keep those five, and if all five are eliminated, they are eliminated. They have not specified how teams will be divided for the projects. Typically there are a few team projects early, then they transition to individual projects, so that is one way around the mess. Alternately, they can do random pairings and have two mentors consult on one project if the partners are from different teams.

We shall see how it works.

As described, the role is to be mentors and advisers. The team members are supposed to do all the actual work. I did see a couple cases where the mentors were demonstrating something on the actual sculpt or appliance to show how to do it, but not any mentor doing extensive work. Where the “advising” stretches into delegating work is, perhaps, a gray area. I would approach it with “You need to come up with a plan, who is doing what?” I think Rayce was appropriate in his level of direction of work. He was trying to keep them focused on the priorities. And, the mentors all left at a certain time each day to let the teams finish the work unsupervised.

Two seasons ago when they brought back previous contenders, it included a few of these. For example, Miranda went out early in her first season because she had no experience or confidence. She had developed real sculpting skill and artistry during the time before her return, but still stressed out.

This came down to a judgement call from the judges. Ben’s hand sculpts just had fail written all over them. First the molds broke, then the appliances came out rough and misshapen. He tried to salvage them, but that was a dreadful decision. The thing is, he was motivated by a poor concept, the idea that he really didn’t have any particular thing that was his independent work except for the hand sculpts, so he didn’t want to be eliminated for not contributing. Except the judges seem far more likely to kick you off for contributing badly than not having something specific in one team challenge. Establish a pattern of that, sure, but one challenge you can usually get by. So he was motivated by having something to show, when he should have been motivated by the evaluation that it didn’t turn out and it detracted from the overall makeup, so it should have been ditched.

Tough call - he had bad decision making in keeping the bad work, but Gregory’s monkey face was bad in a lot of ways, and Gregory put a lot more work into that disaster. He couldn’t see his problems, either.

Either one could have gone home IMO, so I think the judges decided they saw more of Gregory’s work to evaluate and sent him on that basis. There was also some comment about a paint contribution to another alien for Ben, and that helped keep him.

That would be a different way to do it. Would it work with the episodic structure of TV, keep the audience entranced properly? I think the fear is that people would skip the intermediate shows and only watch the elimination shows.

I make extensive use of wikipedia and the SyFy page.

So apparently I forgot to post last week. It’s been busy. Excuses, excuses.

Last week’s challenge was to create a new predator/plant combination for a “Hunger Games” style creature. They were explicitly told by Glenn not to make an animal creature with a flower headdress/cowl, to be more creative and more integrative of the elements.

Teams of 2 were randomly assigned, with most teams having two mentors. What was most interesting to me about this week’s results was that everybody did a very good job, the looks that were bottom looks here absolutely could have been Safe on other seasons, and only the overall quality of the work made them the worst this time.

Special guest judge was Josh Hutcherson, i.e. Peeta from “The Hunger Games” movies and a big time Face Off fan.

Top looks were assigned to Emily and Regina for their Hyena/Shampoo Ginger combo, and to Ben and Darla for their Ram/Cactus hybrid.

Emily and Regina got off to a rocky start. Their original concept was a hyena shaped head with the ginger plant texture and layering, but their first attempt at sculpting was not cohesive, going in two directions. They rethought the concept and started over, which put them behind. But Rayce was right, they just had to apply themselves and make smart choices from there, and it worked out to their advantage, with a Top Look. The paint was great, the new look was a better integration of the forms, and the kicker was Emily introducing the hemp from the mold room to make the hyena fur.

Ben and Darla had a very interesting Ram sculpt, with the horns integrated into the cowl in foam and them painted to give the texture of bone. My one issue with their hybrid was it didn’t feel like it had enough cactus to me. It was dry and felt monotone, but had subtle shading to give the weathered desert effect. Good efforts.

Safes went to the following:

Anthony and Logan had a Warthog/Pitcher Plant. The warthog sculpt used the large nostrils for the actor’s eyeholes, which allowed a larger head form to shake off the human form more. Good choice. I was less thrilled with the color choice, but saw the pitcher plant element in the colors along with the tweaks to the warthog head shape.

Kelly and Daniel and a Scorpion/Delphinium combo. Good scorpion tail fabrication, good overall look, good use of color to brighten the face over the rest of the head. Maybe there could have been more plant in the look.

Rob and Jamie had a Piranha/Blue Thistle combo. I thought this was a great one and in some ways liked it better overall than the Ram/Cactus hybrid. Really good sculpt and paint combo.

Bottom Looks went to the following two groups:

Julian and Adam had a Bat/Sugarbush Protea combo. This one failed on the specific instruction by Glen for not using an animal head and flower cowl. There just wasn’t enough integration in the forms. Also, the color choice was bad. They went green and took it too light. IIRC Ve called it a batvocado. Still, there was a lot of detail in the sculpt and paint.

Stephanie and Alan did a Thorny Dragon/Cockscomb mix. The biggest problem was the bland monotone paint that read a bit too yellow, with nothing to break it up. Also, the form was a bit too undefined. Particular of note were some swollen bumps in the jaw area that Alan said were intended to be venom sacks, but read like bad swollen jaw muscles or something.

The winner was Emily, for her efforts and especially the use of the hemp. The eliminated contestant was Alan for his poor venom sacks. Stephanie was at risk for her paint job, but the sculpt kicked it.


This week, we had their first individual challenge - to draw a playing card character (King, Queen, Jack, Joker) and create a Tim Burton style character incorporating the suit of the card. Special guest judge was Robert Stromberg, who worked on the Tim Burton “Alice in Wonderland” movie.

What most struck me this week was the relative drop from last week’s performance, with the saddest collection of mistakes and ugly fuck ups I’ve seen in a while. One after another they looked off or not very creative or just messed up. It actually felt like a struggle to me to find three competitors for the Top Looks.

The biggest problem to me was almost everyone took the too literal translation of sculpting the shape of the suit into the face and cowl and hair. It just was obvious, and in most cases not well done.

Rundown by presentation order:

Stephanie had the King of Diamonds. Had a pointy chin and nose, with pointy hair to give the diamond look. She had some intentional asymmetries to give it a sinister look, but the color was a bit gray and there were some application issues around the lips and eyes. Safe.

Jamie had the King of Spades. Her first big problem was that the description for the card is David and Goliath, and she wanted to go with a giant, but she got last pick on models and got stuck with a small woman. So she had to revamp her concept as the tiny king with the bit attitude. That could have worked out okay, revamps sometimes give stronger concepts because they aren’t the most obvious, but in this case the execution was dreadful. She sculpted the hair to form the spade shape, and ended up with a plastic looking head for the face and the hair. The sculpt was bad and not any texture, the paint was weak, the glossy look was wrong. And then there was the mustache. Bottom Look.

Kelly had Queen of Spades, whom she made into a judge in the Judge Judy form, passing judgement from the bench in her robes and gavel. The cowl gave the spade form. The exaggerated wrinkles were a little strong, the purple face was pretty bad color choice, and then she topped it off with contacts that made the eyes not look human. Safe.

Logan had Queen of Clubs. I really didn’t understand what he thought he was doing with the gold forms, were those supposed to be hair? The look like an odd helmet on her cheeks and forehead, with scalp visible between the plates. And for some reason he gave her a black goatee. I assume that was supposed to be the stem for the club, but it’s a black point to the chin on the white face with golden petals of the club. ??? Safe.

Julian had Jack of Clubs. His was the most convincing one using the shape of the face itself to pull off the suit, which isn’t high praise. But he had a very good application and paint job, most looking like a real person, with good old makeup and some interesting choices. Top Look.

Ben had Jack of Diamonds, whom he sculpted for patience so he made really old. It was kind of clownly looking in paint job, but it wasn’t the obvious diamond shaped head, just used pointy chin and nose to sell the idea. Safe.

Adam had the King of Clubs, whom he styled the King of Night Clubs, a Rat Pack style comedian. Except, in his own words, it didn’t look like a king, just looked like a pimp. The Pimp of Clubs! Safe.

Rob had the Jack of Spades, whom he made over into a Musketeer style character with an eyepatch and a big floppy hat. The patch was too large, covering much of one half of the face, and he had some application errors where the adhesive didn’t hold around the sides and neck, but they were fairly well covered by the hair. Safe.

Daniel had the Queen of Diamonds, and he was fairly lost. His original concept was a lot of sharp diamond edges on the head and cowl, but Anthony thought it was coming off more horror than whimsical, so he started over and did a queen with diamond motifs to her face. It was a subtle look which didn’t convey the diamond look well, it was poorly done in that the lips were kinda swollen to make a protruding diamond shape that just came off poorly, and it really wasn’t whimsical. He got hammered for being lost, and then Ve commented that if he’s done an evil queen with diamonds protruding from her face, at least that would have been a concept. Bottom Look.

Emily drew the Queen of Hearts, and she had a very interesting twist. Instead of the classical heart shapes, she went with actual, beating hearts. She gave her queen a necklace of arrows with hearts on them, then did the hair up in a giant asymmetrical heart hairdo. Her sculpt was facinating, the application and paint were flawless, but the concept really pushed the envelope by using real hearts instead of cartoon hearts. The guest judge actually said they would have eaten that up for the Burton movie if it had been proposed. Hers was stunning and beautiful and original and creative, and pretty much the solid top pick out of a field of mush. Top Look and Win.

Regina drew the sole Joker, so she played up the comedic element and gave him two faces, one on the back of his head. It was a fabrication nightmare scrambling at the last minute, but it came together and was reasonably convincing. She had a good Safe.

Darla had the Jack of Hearts. She went with sculpted in hair and beard instead of applied hair, but her technique was good. I didn’t like this one as much as the judges, because I thought she was going more for the heart shape being created by the hairline rather than actually sculpting a heart-shaped face, but the judges gave her a lot of credit. I guess that played the whimsical element like the oversized Queen head from the film. They loved the way she used the beard and applied it low enough to not interfere with the mouth. The judges gave her a lot of praise, but I wasn’t as enamored with it as they. Top Look.

Anthony had the King of Hearts, so his concept was a King whose queen was killed in front of him and now he had a broken heart. The King was supposed to be emaciated and sad, and he chose a female model to play the role. I don’t think there’s a single thing he did that worked. He was going to have a big bleeding heart chest piece, but Rayce convinced him it would be more gorey and horror than whimsical, so he dropped that. The head is bad sculpt, the paint was atrocious muddy mix of read and white all over, and the hair suffered from not having any wigs left he thought would work but making do, and making do poorly. Ve called out the hair, and said this wasn’t even a good clown make up. OUCH! Bottom look.

I already pointed out of the top three, only one was really great IMO and that was Emily, and she was the obvious Win.

Out of the bottom three, I was expecting the bad clown to be eliminated, but the judges decided to axe Daniel and his Queen of Diamonds. I guess they felt his lack of direction and concept was worse than Anthony’s atrocious result but at least he had a concept that he could verbalize. Jamie’s was bad, but not at the level of bad of these two.

Also, all three Top looks were on Laura’s team.

Also, Kelly and Stephanie are tied at bottom going into the next challenge, each with 2 Safes and 1 Bottom look. Emily, Darla, and Regina currently have the best records, but it’s early to make much of that.

Have we fallen off our Face Off thread? I am not nearly as good as Irishman on the recaps, but here are my thoughts.

I liked the challenge this week, to create a troll that dwells under a specific bridge. I might have been expecting too much in the way of having the trolls really look like they matched their bridge.

The Top Looks

Jamie (the winner) got the Dragon Bridge in Bali, and I think his troll was pretty solid, although I feel like the Dragon Bridge people got a bridge that already looks pretty mythical, a very lush, natural environment, and the kind of place you would find a troll. So this was maybe a slight advantage in my book.

Kelly had the Tower Bridge in London, and her troll was a mother who had lost a child and now haunts the bridge. It was a convincing backstory that went with her creation, and it definitely fits in with bridges in general. The model really sold it, too (this was one of the only episodes I can think of where they focused a lot on what the model was doing, due to the guest judge being Doug Jones).

Ben had the Python Bridge in Amsterdam, and he went with a more comic portrayal of a troll, which turned out pretty well and the judges were into it. I wish he had maybe done a little more with the body, but the face was great. It looked a little too much like a head stuck on a regular human body to me.

Safe

Darla also had the Python Bridge, and I thought her troll was okay, but didn’t particularly go with the bridge.

Adam also had the Dragon Bridge in Bali, and this was fine. I thought it was interesting that bridge that seemed the most obvious to me indeed resulted in two creations that seemed very similar.

Julian had the Corvin Castle Bridge in Transylvania. I thought it was okay, but I can see why it was a safe look, it didn’t stand out much.

Stephanie also had the Corvin Castle Bridge, and I think she achieved an interesting vampire-ish troll look in the face, I was disappointed that so much of her model was showing through the costume, without any makeup.

Logan had the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco, and I liked this one a lot more than the judges. I missed some of the fabrication scenes and so I didn’t hear a lot of the backstory of the character, was it playing on the idea of the Bird Man of Alcatraz? Or maybe going for some native images? The judges did something that always annoys me – they all talked about how it didn’t look like a troll, as if there is some objective standard for that, AND they’re not very consistent, because when someone goes out of the box and the judges like it, they’re all excited about how it was non-traditional.

The Bottom

Rob had the Tower of London Bridge, and I didn’t really hate his troll, it seemed fine although none of the safe ones jump out at me as things I would have switched this out with. I could see it being a toss up between Rob and Stephanie.

Emily also had the Golden Gate Bridge, and the show focused a lot on her various problems with the creation, so maybe she was destined to be on the bottom. Other than the coloring, I wasn’t really getting what she was going for at all.

Anthony had the Helix Bridge, and it was infuriating to me that he was able to articulate some story … that didn’t seem evident at all in his final look. I think he was the right choice to go (although I wouldn’t have argued with Emily, either), and he’s been down toward the bottom a lot.

I don’t think we have anyone with two wins yet, although Ben has a win and two top looks.

This is the first year I’ve watched. Where do the costumes come from? Do the contestants have to sew and fit those, too? Or is there another team that takes care of that aspect?

From what I can tell, the contestants order the basic costume parts from some sort of inhouse costume shop. They don’t go into this very much on the show, but every once in a while, in the scenes where they are working on their designs, one of them will mention something like “I ordered X, but when it arrived it wasn’t what I expected so now I’m using it in a different way and hoping it will still work.”

I think they can order essential stuff, like “a red dress” or the fabric, like “I need 10 yards of tulle.” Often it seems like they are ordering something and then cutting it up/painting it/repurposing it to get the exact look they want. And footwear, that seems to be where all the boots come from.

My wife and I enjoy it quite a bit!

Anthony hasn’t impressed me and I’m sure he’s bummed. He started out quite strong but lost momentum. I can’t argue that he concept was muddled at best in the makeup and required explanation to even see it a little.

I agree that what “troll like” is, is too subjective. I thought Rob’s was fine and wasn’t alien at all, given the tusks and ears.

I can’t tell if there are too many contestants these days or if they are editing it that way. Julian, Logan, Jamie before this win, and Adam don’t stick out to me and I can barely remember what they have done.

Thanks for the discussion!

vislor

Oh, there are several things that seem to be hidden. I think if they get their cast done at some point, it’s done for them overnight as well? There have been hints that they don’t have to do it all the time? Likewise, sometimes they make the costumes but as was said, can order stock ones or the material to make it.

I too admit to being unsure what a canonical troll is like. “Hideous monster that lives under bridge” is about it, as far as fairy tales go. I guess some mythologies have them made of stone, or turning to stone if they get hit by sunlight. So the large-headed tusked London bridge troll – ahhhh…I was OK with that. And I liked the rather British costume it wore.

The really cartoony troll bothered me – it looked to much like a deformed little girl. And it wasn’t scary, which seems to be one of the defining characteristics of trolls. But it was, from the shoulders up, a very well done makeup. (From the shoulders down, it was a kid in a bathing suit.)

I really thought Emily would be the one to go; her fabrication was a disaster and the concept wasn't very interesting.   At least the rock->metal troll had a backstory, even if the execution was flawed.   Maybe you get some invisible judging points for having come in tops in a previous week?

None of the contestants really stand out to me yet, so I’m thinking it’s anyone’s game at this point.

I realized a few seasons ago that I can’t really keep up with the contestants until they get down to about seven. That’s the point where I start having opinions about them as individuals.

Sorry, I’ve been too busy to keep up with the posting. Did manage to watch the shows.

Two shows ago:

Don’t remember much from the tag team relay. Reading a recap, the big blue wig was the win, and I recall agreeing. Looking at the SyFy page, the cat goddess with horns on her chin kinda sucked.

The Spotlight Challenge was Sound Off, take a creepy sound and create a creature to match the sound.

Darla and Anthony had a howling creature from hell, with lots of faces on the body. I thought the technique for making the faces was creative, and the body wasn’t bad, but the undulating body technique of the actor didn’t work, and the face was kinda off. Judges put them on Bottom.

Logan and Rob had a big slimy swamp beast. Looks a lot like a rubber suit, the tusks and fangs didn’t work for me. The judges put them Safe.

Kelly and Stephanie created the clockmaker’s wife, an automaton doll. They did an exceptional job with the paint, with the beauty and the right look of wear and tear. Reminiscent of the creepy doll from last season. Also, they choreographed the model’s motions to the sounds exceptionally well. Top looks for sure.

Julian and Ben had a heavy breathing demon with a big blade for the sound effect. They also choreographed pretty good. I’m not as thrilled with it for some reason. Still got in Top looks.

Adam and Regina came up with an alien warrior. This was dreadful. Stunningly bad face. I applaud the attempt not to do the obvious robot, but this didn’t work. Bottom Looks for sure.

Jamie and Emily had some weird clicks and made a dinosaur/bird like creature. It was a good job, and I liked the attempt to mask the breasts to not be boobs. Only overshadowed by the excellence of the clockmaker’s wife IMO.

Stephanie got the well-deserved win, sadly Regina was let go. I think she had some promise and some early good results, so I’m disappointed with this result. However, hers was the worst product this week, so it’s hard to argue.

Last week:

Make a troll to match a bridge.

I’m with you on that. I was hoping to see more connection between the bridges and their trolls. Something where the architecture or styling of the bridge came in to play.

I kinda felt the same way, that bridge most easily gave a mythical feel to sponsor a Troll. The others you had to work for a troll IMO. Jamie (she) did a great job, with the wood texture and the overall look and feel fitting the culture. She knocked this one out and deserved this win. However, she hadn’t done anything spectacular up to this point, so this is a surprise and remains to be seen if she continues, or if it’s a one off.

Kelly’s troll fit the scenario she created, and it was good work.

I have to agree. He did a pot belly sticking out of the front of the suit, but that’s harder to see. I’d liked to have seen some deformity in the shoulders and legs, something to break up the human profile. But he was kinda going for “looks like a normal girl until she turns around”, and on that he succeeded. Good execution.

This result I didn’t get. Her face was absolutely dreadful - no shape, no subtlety, no features. There was no connection to the bridge and no sense to the makeup itself. The judges said something about the paint job, but I don’t see it. To me, this was the bottom look and should have been the go home.

Pretty good, maybe a bit busy.

Another bad one, IMO. The vampirish face was okay, but other than that there wasn’t anything stand out and the quality was low.

Creative but safe.

He said something about being inspired by the crows, and then making it wear a crow mask. Except the point of the mask didn’t really match up with the concept of a troll. I didn’t think it bad, the concept of troll seemed lost.

It’s a fine line - you want to be creative, but still have enough of the preconceptions to make it fit the concept of the theme. Fantasy trolls are brutish and have overexaggerated features - nose, ears, chin, maybe moles or whatnot. It’s not anything goes.

Rob’s was more Safe to me - I liked the costume fit and the overall beastliness worked. The judges were thrown by the head being oversized and too bulbous in back, breaking the typical basic human form too much. I would have put him Safe and put Darla and Julian in bottom looks. This is where I truly disagree with the judges - this episode their calls bothered me.

Okay, Emily’s did not work for me on so many levels. She tried to incorporate the rocks and cliffs into the sculpt, but it, too, was tragically too far deformed from the basic human form of a troll. The coloration was an artistic choice to tie in to the sunset, but that really isn’t the bridge so much as the setting, so once again it was an odd choice to me. Looks more like a rock demon than a troll. I would have liked a troll with the red iron in some kind of motif. So her creation failed for me as far as the challenge went, but if it were a different challenge there was a lot of good work in the design, the sculpt and paint and texture and all. I’m iffy, because I’d make her Safe on quality on work but missing the challenge on concept.

What I didn’t like about Anthony’s design choice was to have one side of the face morphing but the other side not. That just doesn’t make sense to me. If the troll is genetically modifying itself (or transforming through whatever process), wouldn’t it be a symmetrical morph? And the shapes didn’t tie in with the bridge all that well. Plus the color was too much the same and it corrupted the distinction to make it too hard to see why one side was different than the other.

Out of the ones the judges put on bottom, he was the one to go, but honestly I would have eliminated Darla for that hideous rubber dome mask.

The first few seasons, it seemed like the contestants were responsible for everything. The last couple seasons, it seems like they order the costumes from another group, or some costume elements. I see them doing a lot less on the costumes, mostly adjusting to fit elements that aren’t straight up (like oversized shoulders or putting the hole in the swimsuit belly). Also, some prop elements are ordered - one season they did mother earth goddesses, and one woman ordered bunny rabbits and didn’t get what she wanted.

No, they are responsible for all the modeling and casting. They have to clean out and fill the mold prior to leaving. That’s why there’s always the scramble at the end of day two to get the molds cleaned out so they can pour in the foam rubber mix.

I’m sure the judges keep in mind the contestants’ past records. Coming in to that show, Emily had a Win and a Top look, whereas Anthony had one Top look and two Bottom looks. That’s got to factor in to their opinion on who has the better chance of success. That didn’t seem to save Regina when she came in with two Top looks, but then blew it. Her results were bad enough below everyone else that there wasn’t much room to justify saving her.

I thought Regina was doing well - oops. Emily’s pretty good. Ben’s been up and down. Julian is doing well and keeps staying off my radar. Logan’s got a second win in but nothing else.

Tonight’s episode was the Foundation Challenge on pick a hat, make a character.

I agreed with Lois on the win going to Emily, for her creative use of color and style and the way it all fit. I liked the “Willy Wonka of the Toy World” one myself. Pinocchio was missing something, IMO.

The Spotlight Challenge was nude body painting in the woods. Yay! They haven’t done much body painting in a while, so that was good.

Julian and Logan had the cuckoo wasp. I find it amusing that Kelly proposed the idea of using the man to form the queen’s abdomen, but Ben didn’t like that, whereas these two guys pulled it off really well. Good use of form, good use of color, and the lighting effect was great. Good win.

Stephanie and Darla had the jewel beetle. I’m a little thrown because we didn’t see just how they worked with the photographer to get the effect they wanted, so the alignment part of that is actually an issue with the lack of coordination and overseeing the photographer. Kinda hard to fault them when they didn’t get to see the finished product until the reveal stage. Also, the underutilization of the male model was actually due to Laura resetting their pose. She’s the one that suggested that pose rather than what they were doing. I would hope if they had been in bottom looks that would have been the point “speak up” was asked, and she could own up to that misdirection. But the weakest element of that was, as pointed out, the huge boobs hanging down on an insect. :smack: I also feel like the variety of the color scheme of the beetle was lost in the pose, not showing enough of the back. I think there were a lot of bad choices in the pose, but the wings were excellently painted to make them seem translucent. Glad they were Safe.

Rob and Adam’s Ladybug was problematic. The nod to the classic Adam and God would have been interesting if more expertly executed. The ladybug paint is not great, the face is not pretty but jarring, and the male is inexplicable. I don’t know how you’re supposed to get larva out of that. Oh yeah, the queen’s hair - :confused: They had to get the model to do that? (Isn’t that cheating?) Judges made the right call here. Adam’s overall record is not looking that great.

Jamie and Emily did the honeybee. I agree there was a lot to like in this, the beauty of the queen’s face, the use of the honeycomb texture in her paint job, the tie together of the coloration of the two, and the posing for the story. Bold and Gold. A Top look.

Kelly and Ben had the European Hornet, and the judges were right, this was not a team effort or team result. Kelly had the creative idea for combining the two, and it would have been amusing to see two teams with the same idea. Unfortunately, Ben was set on doing a good blend into the background bodypaint, even if it didn’t fit the challenge, didn’t work with his teammate to get it, and by the way, Nix pointed out the extra challenge due to the changing lighting as the sun moved. His result is decent if slightly off in places. Her result is less so - the black on the face may have emulated the actual coloring, or been meant to suggest pinchers, but what it did was create a muzzle. Doh. And her posing didn’t really work for insect. Nice round butt.

I agree with the judges on this one. Right person win, right person eliminated.

I do think they have to do all molding but I think if they get it done in time, the foam might be poured for them? It could be the edit, and me being stubborn, but there were times when it was filmed as if they just got the mold cleaned and then they come in the next day to see the foam results. In earlier seasons, I agree they used to have to do everything but now they just have to do the customizing.

Last nights was very interesting. I also thought it fun that they returned to body painting. I am not sure on the results. I thought Ben was going to go for admitting he didn’t do a team thing. I get why they picked Rob but his first ever body painting, it was not bad. My wife also wondered if Laura would say she was the one who suggested the pose for the other two, who were going to do a combo until Laura suggested against it.

My big thing was not seeing the photography in action! I really wanted to see them work with it but that’s complete bias because I have gotten into photography in the past few months and wanted to see that. I remember watching that in past shows and thinking that was also interesting in trying to line things up they way they wanted. But maybe there wasn’t enough drama. Also, as Irishman said, really strange that they didn’t get to see the result?

However, I couldn’t get past how human they all looked, boobs or not. I seriously did not see anything but humans painted as insects. Even the top win, the arm as the leg didn’t work for me as I kept seeing painted arm. The problem is that they had to show off the paint job, which means have them visible, but some creative use of hiding a face or leg here or there might have worked better for me.

Still a fun episode!

vislor

I’ve watched this season just in the hopes of seeing Kelly cut. I can’t explain why but since the beginning she has just annoyed me. Not since Megan in season one have I disliked a contestant on this level.

LOL! I can understand that but this season it’s Ben for me only because he is reminding me of the guy in an early season who got done early and then goofed off? Can’t remember his name. Ben also seemed to bring the drama early but did get better about that until this episode.

I have liked Darla and wanted her to do well but she’s so quiet so they don’t focus on her much. I did wonder if she was going out this time, and a previous one.

vislor

I KNOW, Ben is the worst! I was hoping last night would be the night, especially with his poor attitude made very clear to the judges.

Other thoughts:

I wish we could see more of the foundation challenge, it seemed very interesting.

I thought the painting in the woods idea was great for showing how everyone reacted to an unexpected, stressful situation.

Julian and Logan deserved the win. I thought this looked really nice, and about as much like an insect as you are going to get from painting two naked people in the woods.

Stephanie and Darla’s issue with the wings being too high seemed a little unfair, given that they couldn’t really control what was going on with the photographer. Still, agree that the male model was under-used. You’d think it wouldn’t be THAT hard to have one of his legs stick out and become a branch or something.

The honeybees by Jamie and Emily weren’t really my taste (the queen bee looked like an 80s glam makeup fail to me), but I see how it was a good composition and good workmanship. And I like Jamie and Emily.

Rob and Adam, what happened here? I thought the concept was good, but it just didn’t look AT ALL like what it was supposed to be referencing. Although unlike the judges, I thought the larvae thing looked reasonably like a generic larvae. Having the model do her own hair cracked me up – we have seen that before, I remember Miranda a few seasons ago making her model do some work during the final minutes.

Kelly and Ben drove me crazy. I think he’s a jerk, and I think she would rather whine after the fact than be assertive when it counts (an impression that could completely be the result of editing, I know). Their concept didn’t work at all, and I was bothered that the body paint on the male model didn’t follow the actual line of the tree.

I am almost positive that as long as they get the molds done and cleaned out by the end of the day, someone else actually does the foam latex or silicone casting. They usually come in the next day to find the face pieces and cowls sitting in a row on the table, and often comment about how thick the edges are, or that there are tears.

I’m not sure. There have been times when they mentioned someone else doing the casting and the time it saved and other times when they commented on the seams as “I really screwed this up” so its possible its a mixture depending on the exact challenge.

My question has always been on the costuming/clothing. Not the huge foam or latex items but the fabric stuff. I don’t see them making that and some is too specific to the make-ups/designs to be off a rack.

I’m pretty sure that’s all on Laura. She’s the one that didn’t like their original concept with the guy lying in the branches. I think she’s the one who suggested the pose with the guy’s arms as wings.

The concept had merit - homage to Adam and God, with the queen and her larvae. I totally couldn’t get larvae out of what they did - without them telling me, I wouldn’t have had a clue. Even with them telling me, I didn’t have a clue. The fail on the woman, though, was also pretty strong. For all the effort the model put into her own hair, it looked like a droopy sack on her head. And then the face pattern - clown makeup? I get they were going off ladybug coloring, but there’s something to doing a good translation where you get inspired by the look but modify it to fit. She’s a queen, she needed to look beautiful, not whatever they did.

We’ve seen it before where the models got drafted to do something, like dab paint on their own arms, or hold something for the adhesive to set. But I think having the model style her own hair is kinda pushing it. Isn’t that crossing a line from grunt work to the skill part of the application?

I spotted that. Once again, I think that was mostly a photography issue. If his back was slightly arched one way, it gives a curve, but a slight shift in his pose could have fixed that. If the competitors were able to see the photographer’s view before the image, they could point out the alignment issues like that.

What was more problematic was the coloration on the head that didn’t match the shadows of the background. Possibly a photography issue - sensitivity of the camera vs eye. That’s a case where knowing you’re going to photograph suggests you should do some test shots early with your own camera to read how it comes across. But that’s not likely something they would have thought of or had time to do.

Mentioning it, I think we’ve seen cases where they are racing at the last moment to get the molds cleaned out, so maybe you’re right that they’re allowed to have someone else pour the mold. I haven’t noticed them coming in to appliances sitting on the benches waiting for them.