I’m glad Nora won.
Anyone else think the Resurrection film didn’t make sense? Why did the high priest jump into the pit of doom? I assume he was afraid of the creature but…Did I miss something?
I’m glad Nora won.
Anyone else think the Resurrection film didn’t make sense? Why did the high priest jump into the pit of doom? I assume he was afraid of the creature but…Did I miss something?
She was purple, had weird purple eyes (until Patrick took them out), and had a silicone appliance across her whole face. She was alien of some type, but maybe not the same species. I don’t know, it didn’t look like it fit.
I have to agree. Nobody was really a stand out this season. Everyone was too sporadic. Scott was the most consistent performer, and he lacked pzazz. His were just a little plain.
Looking at the stats, Nora actually did better than the impression I have. Not counting the finale,
Nora: 1 Win, 5 Tops, a Foundation, vs 1 Low. That’s not a horrible record, although she only pulled one outright win prior to the finale.
Ben: 4 Wins, 2 Tops, vs 2 Lows. That’s actually a fairly good record. For comparison, some previous seasons (pre-finale):
Season 8
Darla: 2 Wins, 3 Tops, 1 Foundation vs 1 Low
Emily: 2 Wins, 4 Tops, 1 Foundation vs 2 Low
Logan: 3 Wins (he was the Scott of that season)
Season 7
Dina: 5 Wins, 2 Tops, 2 Bottoms
Cig: 2 Wins, 5 Tops, 2 Bottoms
Drew: 1 Win, 1 Top, 3 Bottoms
Season 6
Rashaad: 2 Wins, 4 Tops, 1 Bottom
George: 2 Wins, 5 Tops, 1 Foundation, 2 Lows
Tyler: 4 Wins, 3 Tops, 2 Lows
I guess impressions are built out of more than pure numbers.
I was going to post that as well. I could see he was trying to give the beast the woman, but instead the beast turned on him, so he ran. But then why did he jump into the pit? It didn’t look like an accidental fall. That didn’t make sense.
Thoughts:
I’m glad Nora won. I liked her a lot throughout the season, although a lot of that is liking her personality and her work ethic (which are nice, but a little tangential to her talent in a strict sense).
Even liking Nora, I agree with the comments that this season didn’t have as many stand out contestants, or even individual episode winners that absolutely blew me away.
I was wondering if that was because of the contestants … or the challenges. But even going back to review the challenges, most had decent potential. I really think this particular crop of contestants was a little lukewarm compared to previous seasons.
This made me want to go back and watch some of the earlier seasons, just to see if the challenges have gotten harder or more conceptually complicated.
Agreed that I couldn’t figure out what was going on with the Resurrection movie.
I get that these “movies” were created from start to finish to showcase the make ups, so there isn’t any dialogue and the entire thing has to be about 3 minutes long, tops, but I was laughing a little that all three movies were about people grunting in some way.
We had a little foreshadowing in the previous challenge that Evan was reasonably impressive at taking direct feedback and going back to fix things (a good skill in this business, but I would have felt a little let down, I think, had he won the season on this skill), and he did successfully get all three characters to look like a believable progression … but ultimately I just didn’t like his final product. They looked more like “alien parasite” than “virus” to me, but eh, maybe it’s a space virus. Still, the overall look didn’t resonate with me.
Agree with you all that Nora’s work wasn’t quite as “Wow!” as past winners like Dina or Laura. But if her ultimate goal is a job in the industry, then that finale episode is a hell of an audition. She demonstrated the sort of essential skills that don’t show up in the lab: coordinating a team, delegation, the ability to take direction and make adjustments on the fly. She looked like she belongs on a film set.
We haven’t seen a body-painting challenge for a few seasons. Remember when the artists would have to make their models blend into a background?
As always, a big thank you to Irishman for all the work he does running these FaceOff threads. See you all in January!
Again, thanks to Irishman for the summary.
My wife would have been pissed had Evan pulled a win above Nora, who was her first pick. So she was happy with the results. I thought Evan did well after he got some direction, which has been his track record for the most part. I didn’t like the fully transformed, either, but thought the other two were very well done.
I liked Nora’s as well and am not disappointed that she won.
Ben. Sigh. Yeah, the mouth was terrible and they knew it. I think they would have been better off ripping off around the mouth and patching it, rather than keep touching it up as they did. I’m not sure if he would have won or not but I think it would have been much closer if the third had been better.
Love the show and love the conversations here! Thanks!
See you in January! I’m glad this show has two seasons a year!
She got a little in her head a few times and got some self doubt going, but she managed to work through those times and usually came off better for the effort. Personality is often a factor in who to root for.
I don’t think it’s the challenges. I mean, they did shake things up with the Gauntlet and with the Focus challenges, but overall I think conceptually, while having broader creative ideas than just “demon of the week”, they were still in the same realm of feasibility as prior seasons. And in some ways things are easier now. Previous seasons, they had to make their prosthetics, now they just have to get the molds made and cleaned out and somebody else fills and runs them and has them waiting on their tables the next day. Also, they get a lot of help with costuming. Which is sensible, but I recall more effort going in to those elements in early seasons.
I do agree that nobody really wowed me this season. There were no Laura’s or Anthony’s or even a Roy (fabrication guru) or a Miranda (season 5 her sculpting was da bomb). This was more like Season 6, where Rashaad won.
Oh yes, she did a great job directing and overseeing her team, and she was adaptive and responsive to the director, and her quality of work means it didn’t need a lot of changes by the director, he was generally happy with her first efforts. She’s got huge potential, and as a resume builder, that challenge is a definite plus.
All of them showed adaptability and workmanship. Evan had to make a lot of changes, and he rolled with it and did a decent job with all the adaptations, from reconceiving the characters to the removal of the coat on set.
Yeah, they did one last season where they had an outdoor challenge to paint an insect queen and another character.
Thanks. I just like to be thorough to get my thoughts down. Helps me reflecting as the season goes on. It’s nice to be appreciated.
The female didn’t really fit. She didn’t look like the other two. Then the appliance was silicone but really think across the lower face, almost wondering why it was there. When it didn’t go down smooth, I was also thinking it might be better to just peel it up, but there would have to be a blend line somewhere, and that might be worse trying to do an edge on the cheeks. Ultimately, the real issue for me was she didn’t look like she fit.
My reading of it was the assumption that the resurrection must have a sacrifice for the resurrected to kill. He decided he’d rather kill the priest than the sacrifice that was tied up and waiting for him. The fact that the priest runs and jumps to his doom without trying to fight or anything else makes me think he knows something we don’t - perhaps the resurrected monster doesn’t merely kill you, but traps your soul in unending torment. Or something bad enough that dying quickly, now, sounds good compared to the alternative.
Yeah, there’s obviously more to it than numbers.
For example, Nora spent a lot of time freaking out and crying about her designs during the early phases. Even when your final product gets you a pass or a top look, everyone remembers the break down.
And maybe that perception is as much the fault of the producers/editors as it is Nora herself. If they wanted to build up the final win as a surprise, they could easily pick and choose the footage in an unfair manner.
I certainly appreciate you starting the thread and doing the summaries! Thanks!
I can see those points. For me, I took this as a fantasy world. As soon as I did that, I saw lots of different “races” living together and she was of a different race. So I didn’t have a problem with that.
I knew they had prosthetics on her and it might be tough to fix them. I agree they needed something on her. Without looking again, I thought they had some seems near the mouth and across the cheeks that they could have used as lines to tear it and then just do some make up. But maybe not. Maybe it was just ruined and that was all they could do.
As for the story of that film, I didn’t understand why the priest jumped to his death as well. That made no sense to me. Nothing to do with Ben, though.
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I hadn’t checked for more responses when I did my reply about the film.
I really like your idea! I can get behind that. But. I don’t think the film itself did enough to show that. I think we had to think about it, perhaps a bit too much, and that takes away from it for me. But I do like this explanation.
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Just to point out, Patrick did look at it and said there wasn’t much that could be done. He should have some idea of the feasibility of tearing off the chin and painting or whatever as a fix.
I guess my thinking was that less than perfect, after seeing Nora’s, meant it wasn’t going to work. If it’s already bad, while a fix could make it worse, it might also improve it.
But, I agree, if he didn’t try, he must have had a reason not. It’s too bad as I liked the make ups otherwise.
No, I’m saying if Patrick, the director and former judge, couldn’t see a better way to fix it, then I can’t fault Ben for not doing better at that point.
And I don’t believe that Ben had seen Nora’s work. They did their applications on the day of just prior to filming, so he had no point of comparison for her three final looks. They filmed at different times in different locations. I don’t think they were on each other’s sets.
Ben saw the application was rough, tried to salvage it. Patrick saw the attempt, didn’t like it, but didn’t suggest tearing it off, either.
I suppose it’s possible he could have felt that intruded upon the realm for the judges to evaluate, I don’t know. On the other hand, he had creative control as director for the film, and the judges could evaluate the fact that he had to make that change. They were on each set. So my opinion is that Patrick decided it would be worse to try to tear it, then blend the remaining edges with the goop they use for edges, then paint over. Plus, that would have taken time.
Ultimately, we didn’t see her face that closely anyway, and not a lot of time on her. I think that edge was mostly lost in the overall film. As I said, the main criticism is that the overall design for the girl didn’t work. Ve wasn’t complaining just about the part below the mouth, but also the cheek zone. “She’s beautiful from here up.” Just the eyes and hair, and I argue the hair doesn’t make sense.
Sure, the bad application didn’t help, but even if it had gone down clean, there was still the complaint that the overall look for the girl didn’t fit.
Okay, that’s fair. I can see those points. Thanks!
While I still like the show, I think it’s kind of falling into a Mythbusters-type of repetitive showcasing. In Mythbusters, they over-relied on explosions after a while and on Face-Off, they are over-relying on horror/fantasy makeups.
I loved the make-ups when they used the triplets to do an older, younger and contemporary character a few seasons back. Make-up isn’t always about fantasy and horror.
I think a really REALLY cool challenge would be to make the models looks like the judges! Who could do the best Glenn Hetrick? The best Ve Neill? The best Mackenzie Westmore? Michael Westmore?
But I think they need to expand their concepts. It’s always a mashup of fantasy and horror nowadays.