So a tart is a prostitute? I’m not even aware of that definition. Outside of the pastry definition, I’ve only ever heard it used to mean something like “cheeky in a flirtatious or sexual way,” and only ever used in flirting. Yeah, maybe that level of flirting would be inappropriate to say to a complete stranger, but not necessarily to a friend.
As for the general topic: It seems to me that, if you’re talking to a friend, at the very least the friend should have to report the comment before anything happens to the poster. Heck, I’m not sure reporting shouldn’t be a requirement for all of it—only an entity that understands language will understand the context.
The only way I would agree with this action is if the person you said it to found it too sexual for you tall her a tart. Similarly, the only way I would agree with a “kill you” joke being modded is if the person actually thought it was a threat or at least insult.
There just is no way an algorithm is ever going to be able figure out the difference, so they should leverage their human users as a first level filtering system.
Yup. Probably most famous in its 1963 use by then-Prime Minister of the UK Harold Macmillan about the involvement of Cabinet Secretary John Profumo and Conservative peer Lord Astor with two young women who were topless dancers (and at least one of whom was a Soviet-adjacent security risk), the so-called “Profumo affair”: “I was determined that no British government should be brought down by the action of two tarts.”
Yeah, Facebook tolerates one set of problems for far too long, then “solves” the problem by using AI to spy on you in real time, which leads to the crux of the real problem when using Facebook: it’s feckin creepy.
The realization that I was using consensual spyware and selling all the data - whether I was using their website or not - was one of the reasons I gave it up. It wasn’t that I had anything to hide; it was the idea that systems somewhere are collecting information about you, and using it for reasons that even they don’t know yet but may one day have a use for, and you may not necessarily consent to those uses.
Who knows…maybe they gather data about your web history, your email, your chats, and then, say, a few years down the road, your data still very much in hand, FB strikes a deal with some data analytics consulting company that promises businesses big and small that they’ve developed a magical algorithm that can weed out ‘bad’ candidates using the latest and greatest (unscientific, untested) analytics and profiling techniques, and they pull up your file and don’t the program doesn’t think you write in a sophisticated manner or you browse “trash” websites, or are associated with “undesirables” on LinkedIn and Facebook. Maybe apartment management companies and rental agencies use this to screen applicants trying to rent out an apartment. Maybe they develop a social credit score. FB does business in China, right? It’s not like they couldn’t figure out how to develop something like this and repurpose it in many ways.
1887, “prostitute, immoral woman,” from earlier use as a term of endearment to a girl or woman (1864), sometimes said to be a shortening of sweetheart. But another theory traces it to jam-tart (see tart (n.1)), which was British slang early 19c. for “attractive woman.” Diminutive tartlet attested from 1890. To tart (something) up is from 1938. Related: Tarted.
It’s true that tart in this sense is more of a Britishism but it’s widely used in their popular culture and has for decades been a double entendre with the sweet dessert in America as well.
Auto-censorship is applied to news sites as well. I’m not on FB but I comment on SF Chronicle and get auto-warnings sometimes if they contain the word “idiot” for example, or even exclamation marks. The Chronicle is human moderated so the posts go up eventually. I already know better than to advocate violence, partly because I’m averse to that kind of speech on a public forum.
FB and YouTube are too big to have human moderators for every single comment or video posting. SDMB is a huge contrast to FB but look at the scale. Nobody at SDMB is making piles of money off the message board, not that I know of.
Could have been the f-bomb that prompted it. One of my private groups got in trouble for overuse of profanity which is IMO ridiculous. I can understand banning hate speech or threats, but cursing? Come the fuck on.
“Primbots” is an excellent descriptive word for social media algorithms that smack down suspected forbidden language, hope it gains currency as a technical term.
There was no accusation of being a prostitute, joking or not. They were talking about pastries, quiche specifically. I get the FB algorithms suck at determining context, but we humans can surely do better.
Just updating the part of the discussion involving the use of the term “tart” to mean “prostitute” with a link to a concurrent thread now discussing the advertising medium known as “tart cards”, which are business-card-type flyers distributed around public places to advertise sexual services.
Orac over at the Respectful Insolence blog says he wound up in Facebook jail for 24 hours, for a post critical of a dubious Covid-19 treatment (Facebook flagged him for spreading Covid-19 disinformation).
He also mentions getting in trouble for “hate speech” on FB for snarky remarks about Americans resisting pandemic health mandates.
Supposedly, making jokes about Canadians has also triggered bans for “hate speech” on Facebook.
