A little more info, please. That site is blocked from work.
The court ruled that the school had absolutely no business to intrude on her privacy and has no right to regulate speech outside of school grounds.
It’s R.S. v Minnewaska Area School District. A PDF of the decision is here.
This goes too far. Schools can act in loco parentis. If I tell my kid that he can’t call his mom a “cunt lapper” on Facebook at any time, I’m allowed to do that.
School discipline breaks down if the faculty can only prohibit conduct for 6 hours a day, but the rest of the time the students can make a mockery of the teachers and administration.
Schools should have the power to police students when they aren’t in school? Are you joking? What limits do you see on your proposal? If Mason calls Logan a douchebag at the skate park on Saturday, can Mason get suspended?
Cool. I’ll have to forward the decision to my superintendent.
Facebook opened up to everyone my senior year of high school but before that myspace was the big one. Kids wrote all sorts of crap on myspace about their teachers and school discipline did not break down.
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Oh, God. You’re such a kidder. This guy, man, this guy right here.
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Yeah, no, fuck that.
Too late to edit:
To expand on that (even though “Yeah, no, fuck that” adequately expresses my views on the matter), if you follow that train of logic you arrive at the view that schools should be able to dictate how a parent raises their child. Let’s say that a school insists I don’t let my kid eat apple sauce at home and I say “uh, fuck that and fuck you too,” should the school’s “parental authority” take precedence over my own? Because unless this kid’s parents gave the school consent to do what they did (I mean really, they forced her to give them access to her Facebook account?) that’s essentially the case.
Only if such conduct continues over into school hours. Comments about the teachers and administration, by implication, continue into school hours. If I say that my teacher, Mr. Smith, is a douchebag on Saturday, then my opinion and disrespect for him didn’t change on Monday.
Same way with the other comment about nutritional dinners at home. It doesn’t carry over into the school environment.
You can’t possibly believe that.
I do. Minors are restricted of their liberties in all sorts of ways. Did your parents ever send you to your room? Were they cited for false imprisonment? Let’s not even talk about paddling..
Based on what you’ve said it’s clear your belief is that the school’s parental authority takes precedence over the authority of the actual parents, even outside of school ours. Thankfully most people don’t think like you do.
Okay. To each his own. IMHO, the school has a right to regulate things, in good faith, that affect the school environment. Calling the teacher names affects that environment.
Irrelevant. I’m not taking issue with the idea of minors being punished. I’m taking issue with your idea that it’s the school’s job to police and patrol students off school grounds and outside of school hours.
On a less-serious note, I was highly amused that the decision added a [sic] to the line "‘I want to know who the f%$# told on me.’” How do you determine whether an intentionally edited expletive contains a typographical error?
Kids (and adults) talk bad about school folks all the time - it being posted on facebook (or not) will not change that part of being ‘in school’ - so, by jtgain’s logic, if the child calls the teachers names at the mall, or on the phone - well, or anywhere - since the attitude wont change, the school should be monitoring and punishing students everywhere all the time.
“It can hardly be argued that either students or teachers shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate” kinda assumes that outside said gate, people have free speech. Including the right to call their teachers dickheads. jtgain is very, very wrong.
Even ignoring the violation of their rights and privacy, digging into their private lives away from school is guaranteed to make the targeted kids extremely angry, rebellious and contemptuous of the school whatever they felt like before. Quite likely with a hefty, justified sense of opposing injustice, and parental backing thrown in. Do you think it’ll be good for school discipline when parents tell their kids “You know, you’re right Jennifer; they really are a bunch of oppressive control freaks”?