Fake Grocery Store Discount Barcodes?

The GQ here is this: does anyone know of a website where you can get grocery store discount card barcodes? A few years ago there was a great site for exchanging a couple of different stores’ barcodes, but my Google-fu is only turning up gripe sites right now.

Explanation: The thing is, I’m sick and tired of the crusty old women at the local Kroger looking at me like I’m an idiot for not having their store card. I don’t work at Kroger for a pittance, so I don’t really give a shit about the $0.20 difference in the price of a gallon of milk, or I’d just go to Farmer Jack in the first place and I’d never go to Nino Salvaggio. But if I have something that will stop their stupid, wrinkled traps and screw up their evil, nasty data collection system without generating even more junk postal mail, then I’d have no problem presenting it when asked. And I’d have a certain satisfaction – illogical as it may be – that I’m sticking to one of the few stores that insists on such a stupid mechanism.

Mods: it’s not illegal, and as I don’t have a card I’m not breaking an agreement with anyone. There’s no copyright on a barcode. No intellectual property is at risk. We’re not in California so silly trade secret laws don’t appy. And being in a bad mood’s okay! :slight_smile:

Just give an incorrect address and a fake name, what’s the problem?

What he said. That’s really going to be the easiest way. Me, I don’t care if they have my actual name and address. Sometimes they actually send me coupons I can use or advance notice of promotional items. Most of it’s junk, sure, but that’s what I have a trash can for.

In Chicago every time I go to Jewel or Dominicks (both local food chains) I get asked for my store card. At both I respond I forgot it (in point of fact I do not have one for either store).

At Jewel 90% of the time the cashier will swipe a card apparently kept just for that purpose so I get whatever discounts are running in the store.

At Dominicks they turn to their computer and cheerfully say, “No problem, just give me your address and we can look it up!”

I therefore shop at Jewel (as it happens both stores are almost exactly the same distance from me so I have few other considerations).

I will say that the discount from the card is noticeable. Like the OP I am not in desperate need of saving $0.20 on this or that item but I swear half in the items (or more) in the store are discounted with the card and some of the discounts are substantial. The receipt tells you what you saved and often can be 10% or better of the purchase. I probably average $100 per weekly trip so a free $10 for me. Does it make a big difference in the scheme of things to me? Nope. But when deciding where to shop it makes the difference in my choice.

(And yes I have done an in-my-head price comparison between the two stores to see if Jewel jacks the price and then gives me a discount…while hardly a detailed survey I saw nothing overt to suggest that was the case)

IANAL.

Actually, it might be deception in that you would be using a fake card to obtain a price discount that you are not otherwise entitled.

Claiming you forgot your card when you don’t posses one is a different issue. The clerk decides whether to accept your claim (using their desk card to swipe) or not. While you lied as a result, the clerk actually makes the decision.

I do not frequent any grocery store that has a store card. Safeway is overpriced from the start. And Albertsons raised their prices for non-card holders just so card holders can get the price they used to pay before the card system was introduced.

I shop Winco. Their prices beat any store in town, whether you have a store card with the others or not.

No, the store is making its money from selling all the data about you and what specific food items you buy to anybody who is willing to pay for it.

Your insurance company sees that you, a single person, regularily buy cigarettes, so they remove the non-smoker discount on your policy. Or years later, reject the claim when you submit one for a smoking-related disease.

When you decide to run for political office, the opposing party buys this info on you, and then publicly attacks you for buying ‘adult’ magazines & beer at the grocery store.

Given all the other things that might be done with this data, I prefer to simply decline to participate in such programs entirely. There’s altogether too much data about me floating around out there already, without me choosing to add to it.

I think you missed the part where I said I do not have a store card and the cashier person just swipes a generic one that has zero info about me (so I still gt the discounts).

That is quite a paranoid view. Do grocery stores sell sales/popularity data? Most likely. Do they sell personal information? I highly doubt it unless you agreed to it in the first place. What kind of information is retained? Probably not much actually. I don’t think they keep tabs of every item you buy every time you visit, because that just wouldn’t be useful. Especially with how many people don’t have cards, use bogus ones like me, use other people’s cards, or use the store’s card.

I have cards for every chain around here (Fry’s, Safeway) and the cards don’t even require you fill out anything. Just ask for one and they’ll give it to you. If they want you to fill something out, tell them you’ll take it home and return it, then throw it away. They work fine.

They definitely keep track of every single item you buy. It is a trivial matter in these days of barcode scanners and computer databases.

I think you would be shocked at the level of information that can be had about you. I had a good friend in marketing and she showed me not only would they take specific information on what you bought (i.e. actual data) but would form remarkably good profiles of you based on what they knew for a fact. She did one on me with just some minimal information and produced a spookily accurate profile. To them it was vague but she started telling me roughly what my income was, what magazines I likely read, what types of car I likely drove, chances I had a dog and so on. Not super specific but then I gave her very little data to start from (IIRC my zip code, sex and age). She assured me they can zero in on people much better than that.

It is a science make no mistake. I am sure they know that the data from stores carries a certain amount of error (using other people’s cards and so on) and account for it. The store is in business to make money so make no mistake that all your discounts amount to less than the store feels they get back. I would bet they sell that info.

I’m gonna let you in on a secret I discovered a while ago:

Kroger Plus cards work without an address on file.

Go through the register, tell them you’d like to get a Kroger Plus card but that you’re in a hurry and can’t fill the form out right then. (Or alternatively, go when the front office is already closed.) The card will still work, and all you have to do is conveniently lose the form on the way home.

Whack-a-Mole, I have one word for you: Aldi’s

No store card to swipe and give information about what you’re buying. And, in spite of this, the prices are vastly less than in either Jewel or Dominick. Yes, it’s mostly the Aldi’s house brand but the quality is generally excellent.

What Mrs. S and I do for our grocery needs:

  1. Shop at Aldi’s for all the basics. This is about 60% of our grocery bill.
  2. Shop at the local Latino produce store for fruits and vegetables. (I love tomatoes and I refuse to pay the inflated prices J & D want for tasteless red billiard balls. Aldi’s also carries produce but the selection isn’t extensive.) As I’m big on salads and fruits, this is maybe 25% of our grocery bill.
  3. Shop at Jewel for whatever else is left over: Name brand itema that aren’t available at Aldi’s, oddball products not carried at Aldi’s etc. Not more than 15% of our grocery bill.

Since we have been shopping this way, we save over 50% of what our grocery bill was a few years ago. As has been said in the OP, we’re not so penurious that this difference will send us to the poor house…but why just throw away what turns out to be a substantial sum of cash annually?

And, no, I am not connected to Aldi’s in any way. It’s just a good deal.

One caveat: Avoid the Aldi’s toilet paper and stick to Charmin or whatever, bought at Jewel. You don’t want to know. :wink:

But you did agree.
Either in the fine print on the form you filled out to get the card, or on the back of the card itself. Probably a statement that by using this discount card, you agree to the terms & conditions posted somewhere in the store.
And since you used one on your purchase, you did agree to allow the collection and sale of that information.

And that ‘bogus’ card the cashier uses is made unique by adding the time-of-day and cashier lane to it. Most people regularily shop at about the same time-of-day, and buy many of the same items each time. So eventually, they have a unique record on you, even if they don’t have a name & address to go with it.
And unless you paid with cash, they already have your name & address. It’s on file for a credit card, or it’s printed right on your check.

Yes, they do. I’ve worked in IT at the largest food wholesaler, and they do collect this. Like whack-a-mole said, that is really trivally easy with modern technology. Automatic at the register, no extra work for the cashier, and not noticable by the customer.

And it is useful. And sellable!

For example, Jiffy peanut butter will pay good money for a list of people who buy peanut butter every grocery trip, but buy a competing brand. Because that’s a good target for them; sending coupons & trial offers to those people could pay off. Jiffy couldn’t afford to send to all store customers, it wouldn’t be worthwhile. But just to a specific list of regular peanut butter buyers? Sure, that’s real valuable to them.

People who haven’t before, but now start buying the smallest size of diapers? Gerber would like to know about them, because in a couple of months, sending them an introductory coupon for Gerber baby food could get a very valuable customer.

Stores do this now, even without the personal info to sell.

Notice those instant coupons that the cash register prints, that are good for your next trip to the store? Those are printed specifically for you, and will be different from the ones printed for the previous customer. They are based on what items you purchased, and what brands have paid the store to present them to the customer.

For example, if you buy dry-roast peanuts, but not Planters brand, you may get a coupon giving a discount on Planters. The coupon amount might even be customized, to the specific size you buy, and for the appropriate cents-off to bring the Planters brand down to the other brands’ price. And the price is calculated for the prices in that specific grocery store. (But not if you buy generic dry-roast peanuts – generic buyers go by price; they have no brand loyalty. So it’s not worth offering them coupons to try your brand, they will just go back to the cheapest one after using up your coupon.) The store is paid a few cents for giving that coupon to you, and even more cents if you actually redeem the coupon on a later visit. That’s done right at the register, without any identifying info at all. Just knowing that you bought some peanuts.

Sometimes combinations of products will trigger coupons. If you buy marshmallows, graham crackers, and chocolate bars on the same trip, you might get a coupon for S’mores candy bars. People who buy flour, oil, eggs, etc. are tagged as ‘home bakers’ and might get a coupon for a brand of yeast.

The grocery business is cutthroat competition, and real small profit margins. Absolutely anything that might give them a bit of an edge over their competitors is worth pursuing.

If you don’ think the information won’t be used against you, think again. One of the big chains had a slip and fall lawsuit. The store used the customer’s records to show that he was a big boozer as a defense. No link but the case happened a couple years ago.

t-bonham you just made a really good case for why it’d be a GOOD idea to have one of those cards. All those personalized coupons and special deals? Sounds cool to me!

The stuff about “they will have a profile on you even if you don’t have a card” also is a good argument for having a card (however tinfoil-hattish it sounds…) - if you can’t beat 'em, join 'em.

Amazon does the same thing with tracking your purchases. It’s a FEATURE of most online stores.

FTR I saved $5 on Hot Pockets this week by using the card member double coupons, and the at-the-checkout printed coupons as well (those of us at the self checkout get to use our printed coupons the instant they’re printer). If Hot Pockets wants to target me, let them.

Er…gosh, as for the OP and the GQ…I agree with what others have said. Use all fake info. It’s not like they’ll be asking for your ID.

Safeway’s cards are the same way. I had a clerk try and push one on me one day, and I told her I was in a hurry, but she scanned a card and handed it and the form to me and told me to fill it out later. I never did.

Yeah, the Kroger in question used to just scan the “store card,” even without being asked. It used to upset me because the clerk would stop everything to waddle away and find the thing. Now they just ask for my phone number and don’t have a store card. Apparently this is Kroger policy because I came across it in their FAQ while looking for fake barcodes last night. Get this: if you forget your card, you have to pay full price, but if you come back with your receipt and card they’ll refund the difference.

Now I try to time my visits for when there are no senior citizens trying to use the self-checkout, then I get no hassle from the clerks. Otherwise I go through the regular checkout which is a lot faster than the self-serve machines but I have to put up with offensive behavior.

We have other grocery stores that don’t use these stupid cards, but this one particular Kroger is more like a convenience store to me – I certainly don’t buy anything of quantity there. Therefore I equate overpriced Krogers the same as overpriced 7-Eleven, i.e., I’m just paying for the convenience. The other big chain that I mentioned is significantly cheaper without a card than Kroger is with a card.

As for not filling out the personal information, I admit that I’ve not tried that. The last time I tried such a scheme was back in '96 trying to get a Jewel/Osco card in Chicagoland. All they gave me was a crappy piece of paper “temporary” card that wore out very quickly. The “real” card was to have shown up at the fake address I put down. I simply imagine that this is the same today, because the applications are cheap glossy paper, and the cards are nice, credit-card like plastic, right?

Coupons? I can’t remember to give the clerk my stupid state of Michigan bottle/can deposit refund slips, and suddenly I have to remember coupons? This reminds me, Meijer and Farmer Jack have hand cleaner at their bottle return area. This stupid Kroger makes me walk around with sticky hands after returning the stupid state of Michigan cans (although with the kegerator now running full tilt, this is less of a concern now).

But back to the OP: no one knows or remembers such a website? I honestly don’t want to get booted from GQ, and all I really want is a barcode. :frowning:

You mean like this?
:smiley:

Two words: Super WalMart. Lower prices than any grocery store I’ve ever shopped at and no silly cards to swipe.

Wrong. You are given the application and the card at the same time. In fact, I got three cards - two of the key chain ones and then one large credit card sized one - and I didn’t have to fill in any paperwork at all. In fact, the last time I ever filled out anything involving my “real identity” was back when I used Dominick’s as a check cashing place - I’ve since lost and replaced that card and my Jewel card and just walked up to the desk and they hand me new ones.

The actual money making feature of store cards is not the data collection (though that does happen). It’s selective pricing. People who are willing to pay only the cheapest pries are able to get those and continue to go to the store. People who are more interested in convienence, specific brands, privacy, etc (in other words, who don’t consider price to be the most important aspect of their shopping) pay more. Everyone gets what they want for the price they want it and the store effectively solves the “how do we give the cheapest prices while still hitting everyone’s maximum price threshhold.” It’s modern high-tech bargaining.