Family sues Panera Bread over possible death from energy drink-do they have a case?

I don’t mean food safety in terms of microbiological safety or concerns about allergens. I’m talking about whether the chefs at most big chain restaurants are considering the size of meatballs for choking risk, or whether or not people are going to bitch and sue if the bread is too crusty and scratches the roofs of people’s mouths.

All I’m saying is that I’m betting that it was much more of this situation in the c-suite:

“Keep the caffeine content in line with commercially available energy drinks and we’ll be fine.”

rather than this one:

“We expect that 0.001% of our customers will die or be injured by the caffeine level in this drink. That translates to roughly $1.3 million in settlements. We expect to make an additional 1 million in profit even after the lawsuits are settled, versus selling a reduced caffeine version. So let’s eat the lawsuits, and keep the caffeine where it is.”

It’s also necessary to note that 1 in 5 American adults can’t read well enough to understand that sign and apply it to themselves.

I also wonder how many know the amount of caffeine in a normal cup of coffee? Does 390mg have any real meaning to most people? I learned for the first time when I was pregnant with Celtling.

I’d say I’ve got more than the average “general knowledge” if only by virtue of hanging out here. But I had to look it up (at the age of 38) and do some digging to gain an understanding of how much caffeine was too much when then the Dr. said “One cup of coffee per day.” Without any comparisons offered, how meaningful are those numbers to the general public?

Of course, one would like to believe that the young woman with the heart condition had troubled herself to learn how much was too much for her.

Before this thread I wouldn’t have had a clue how many mg of caffeine was in a standard cup of coffee* or an energy drink or what the usda said was a maximum daily does.

*and what difference sources say is in a cup of coffee varies a lot.

The word “charged” should cue anyone who has a problem related to stimulants of any kind.

Up until now I thought a cup of coffee was 8 ounces - you know, like a cup.

Nope, the standard is apparently 6 ounces.

Wait until you learn about rice cookers.

Why was she in a sip club knowing she had Long QT? I do not understand that. Most drinks in those places would not be good for her.
A bottle of water would be easier to order or bring along.
I wouldn’t pay a drink subscription if all I could have would be the water.

Could’ve been the carbonation that killed her.

Panera has a lot of caffeine-free drinks. They have some really good smoothies. And even if those aren’t included, there are some caffeine-free lemonades and sodas.

Long QT excludes carbonation or excess sugar as well.

Caffeine free, unsweetened tea is just brown water.

I’ve been drinking a pot of rooibos or a mug of decaf every morning for since September. So some of us enjoy that brown water.

Apparently the girl saw it differently. She chose the souped up Lemonade.

I drink unsweetened iced tea as often as I can. So I personally don’t object to the brown water either.

You have to be careful where you get even that. It’s chosen so infrequently that it sometimes sours in the dispenser. I prefer not to drink moldy tea.

Depends on where you live. In some areas they don’t other putting out sweet tea since nobody will touch that syrupy sludge. All the tea is “unsweet” and you can doctor it as you desire.

Fair enough.

It don’t matter what I choose to drink, to no one but me and my doctors. And Ivy.

This girl made a bad choice. She should’ve known better.
Obviously she didn’t for some reason we’re not privy too. It cost her her life.
Sad beyond words.

Back to the thread, is Panera at fault?
I don’t think they are.
I’m sure the family will get a settlement from them. They’d never win a full out lawsuit. IMHO.

I think you’ve pretty well nailed it Beck. Perhaps a careless moment, perhaps a cavalier decision, perhaps a risky bad habit all meet some bad luck and now a horrific outcome. Life, and death, are not fair.

I eat/drink stuff that is bad for me and could very well kill me every fucking day, because I choose to live a good life over a long life. Just saying.

Let me know a brand name and I’ll sue to get a big pay out in your behalf.

You are my best friend aren’t you?
:blush:

This week I enjoyed sitting in a cafe and watching people holding a meeting there each down 24-36 oz of coffee (some with sugar or syrup added, some with a sweet pastry or two). It’s just not that unusual.

So as not to create a hijack, I started a separate thread about rooibos. (Blehh.)

And how many free refills did they take?

I mean, I would assume that, if you have 32oz in a soft drink, that people would likely wind up drinking 96oz by the end of a meal.

That seems an extreme amount of drink for one meal.