My OP said nothing about people whom did/do drugs and their struggle to become famous or successful it only alluded to their ability to maintain their position (regardless of how they gained it or who helps them hold it). I think you are confusing character with success and while character is a general indicator of future success it is by no means a guarantee. My dictionary defines SUCCESS as:
1.the favorable or prosperous termination of attempts or endeavors 2. the attainment of wealth, position, honors or the like. SUCCESSFUL 1. achieving or having achieved success 2. having attained wealth, position honors, or the like.
I see little about striving for it Prince Harry IS SUCCESSFUL! If I am given a lottery ticket for my birthday and then win $1,000,000 I still succeeded in winning the lottery (with very, very little effort) I will concede success may mean something different in Commonwealth English so I may be “wrong” in my usage but I don’t debate what words “ought” to mean either, I just use a dictionary.
If the intention of my OP was to say drugs don’t affect you “look at these people” then I would have hand picked my list to reflect that ([Marion Barry](” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Barry”), Bill Clinton, GEORGE BUSH! Please) but that’s not what I meant (because that’s not true). There are a lot of people who fuck up their lives and lose everything because of drugs (but not everyone). I thought, “Stephen King a “head” I wonder just how many famous or successful people did or do drugs nothing more. :smack:
I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic with the “presumably” but STC supported a major opium addiction for the majority of his life. He was a hypochondriac and he took the opium in order to alleviate the pain he was constantly suffering. Then he would stop out of guilt (or because he ran out), wait until he was suffering severe withdrawals, then take another dose. It was a rather exquisite form of self-torture. It also pretty much ruined his career as a poet, ruined his marriage, ruined his friendship and collaboration with Wordsworth, and probably directly contributed to his tendency to plagiarize essays and poems.
Many common and prominent Victorian’s alike indulged in [Laudanum](” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laudanum”) it was more common than aspirin (at the time) and used by both children and adults for a vast array of ailments (this was not a controlled substance until much later). It also enjoyed tax-free status over alcohol this helped increased it’s use among the working class.
Can we assume that when you say “drugs” you mean “illegal drugs”? Because most people have taken drugs, both prescription drugs and nonprescription drugs.
Come on, how could this phrase from the OP confused you?!? “The first words out of Mr. King’s mouth was that he was a major “head” during the 60’s. “Not ahead of someone but a person who tripped on LSD, mushroom and smoked pot all the time.” I think most lay people will place a negative connotation on the word drugs. If I said Famous Successful People Who Took/Take medicine/medication would you ask the same question? Do you tell your boss “I need to leave early today to buy some drugs” or do you tell them “to fill prescriptions”? Most people I know don’t tell their kids “it’s time to take your drugs” or “I sent my child to school today with drugs” or “I sent my kids to pick up some drugs” most of them say medicine or medication to avoid the confusion.
Actually, I worked for several years at an HMO, and “drug” was the preferred term. My first job there was to edit the drug formulary, and one of my continuing jobs was to edit the drug newsletter. The HMO policies listed the “Prescription Drug Benefits”.
Well, the link was 404, but It’s seems you’ve gone deeper into Feinmanalia than I have. None of Autobiographies mention LSD… But I’ll take your word for it.
Sprite and strippers only take a even the most brilliant middle aged scientist so far, I guess.
You need to read my posts more closely. I said, “I think most LAY PEOPLE will place a negative connotation on the word drugs”. If you worked in the medical field then you’re not a LAY PERSON! you were in the profession. LAYMAN = One of the laity, One who is not a member of the clergy or specific profession as of law, medicine etc. (Of course professionals use proper English :smack: ) Sorry I used “lay people” instead of laymen if I didn’t you would have said something like “what about the lay women”. :rolleyes: Why don’t you call a neighbor you don’t know too well with teenagers introduce yourself and then tell them you saw their kids doing drugs and hang-up. Maybe you’ll find out what the word “drugs” means to most people while your trying to qualify your statement. (I didn’t say illegal officer).
P.S. ask if their professionals first
Look, just about everyone else in the thread seems to get it don’t worry it’s OK if you don’t.
Wallon is just upset because of the futility of his/her endeavors and I was just bored. Now back to the topic at hand.
Jesus the Nazerite, Carpenter, Rabbi, “Christ” Amanita muscaria, (mushroom) also known as fly agaric. Evidence available from R. Gordon Wasson, (“Soma, The Divine Mushroom of Immortality”) mushroom expert and executive to J.P. Morgan. Another case was made by John M. Allegro, noted Bible scholar and linguist, who presented evidence in “The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross” that the story of Jesus was actually an allegory on the properties of the amanita… Wouldn’t that be just keen Jesus the ‘shroom jockey
Mohammed, spiritual leader and HASHamite warrior.
Philippus Aureolus Paracelsus, Father of Modern Medicine and opium eater
Marcia Moore, Sheraton Hotel heiress, author: “Hypersentience”, Journeys into the Bright World" Her world was made brighter by Pot, LSD and Ketamine
Jules Verne, author: “The Time Machine”, “War of the Worlds”, “2,000 Leagues Under the Sea” and visionary cokehead.
Yup, thanks. And I’m surprised that nobody mentioned Freud’s raging opium addiction. (Although Sampiro did note his cocaine use–AIUI, at that time cocaine wasn’t even as demonized as alcohol is today).
Why the hell would you take my word for it I’m just some Goomba! You have an Internet connection right? Are you afraid of its mighty power to enlighten? A Google search of the simple key words Feynman LSD comes back with few entries. [This one](” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman”)gives an explaination why LSD is not mentioned in his autobiography (I hope they’re not 404 too). According to Genius, the James Gleick biography, Richard Feynman experimented with LSD during his professorship at Caltech. Somewhat embarrassed by his actions, Feynman sidestepped the issue when dictating his anecdotes; consequently, the “Altered States” chapter in Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Feynman! describes only marijuana and ketamine experiences at John Lilly’s famed sensory deprivation tanks, as a way of studying consciousness. Feynman gave up alcohol when he began to show early signs of alcoholism, as he did not want to do anything that could damage his brain. Didn’t I already post about his biography? (You can take three time Pulitzer Prize winner James Gleick’s word for it)
If that’s 404 Try This “Feynman had very liberal views on sexuality and was not ashamed of admitting it. In Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Feynman!, he gives advice on the best way to pick up a girl in a hostess bar and drew a decoration for a massage parlor. His favorite place was nude/topless bars, which he used to visit six times a week. In addition, he admitted to being a cannabis user as well as having experimented with LSD and Ketamine. Feynman also enjoyed bike riding and being interviewed. He was on ” Special K too!!! If you keep this up I’m sure I’ll find a link to his heroin addiction.
And I’m surprised that nobody mentioned Freud’s raging opium addiction. (Although Sampiro did note his cocaine use–AIUI, at that time cocaine wasn’t even as demonized as alcohol is today).
You have an Internet connection right? Are you afraid of its mighty power to enlighten? A Google search of the simple key words Feynman LSD comes back with few entries. [This one](”