Fanfiction That Makes Baby Jesus Cry

Just a short notice: This rant deals with fanfiction, which is stories written about TV shows, movies, books etc. by the fans. It only deals with one section of fanfics and one type of writer. There are others that desperately need a verbal bitch slapping, but it would take all night to get to those. This shouldn’t contain any spoilers if you’ve read the first book of Lord of the Rings or seen the Fellowship of the Ring movie.
I had heard rumors of a shadow growing in the lands of fanfiction.net, and that an ancient evil had been unleashed upon Tolkien’s works. I never knew how truly horrible it would be, as the creature called Mary Sue shows her face in almost every place there is fanfics. I went last night to check it out, and it was much more devastating than I could have ever imagined.
For the uneducated, Mary Sues are where the author includes herself (or himself, but girls are more likely) in the story, often doing so to further her romantic fantasy that often includes one of the original characters. This is also called self insertion, but Mary Sues are more involved in romance.
A Mary Sue author is usually in her preteens to early teenage years. They’re often the mark of an amateur writer. I understand that some people make new characters and that some are successful about keeping them from transforming into Mary Sue, but most original characters end up overshadowing and even taking the place of main characters.
So I went to look and see if it was true. How wrong I was in thinking it was only a few that were infected. I couldn’t find one original fic that wasn’t either a crappy parody or a Mary Sue. It made me horrified at first. I’ve opened up a few of them, and found the two most common victims are either Boromir or Legolas.
The girls who write Boromir Mary Sue have angel complexes. They look at him and say, “Oh, how sad! He died because he wanted to save his people. If only he hadn’t the Fellowship would still be together.” This train of thought leads to this one: “If I was in the Fellowship, I would have prevented it from breaking. And he would have fallen in love with me because I’m so cute and smart and strong!”
Look, kid, Boromir is not supposed to be a smitten fool. And why the HELL are you an elf? Your character’s a mockery of the species. His death and the breaking are major turning points in the story. Have you even thought about other things that will be affected by this, such as the people of Rohan, Gollum, the ents, and the witch king? Do you even know what those are? No? Then why are you writing this dribble. Pick up the books and read them if you’re going to entirely change the events of the story. Otherwise, it leaves way too many untied ends and plot holes.
I’m pretty sure the Legolas Mary Sue are even worse, if just for the sheer number of them. (And how come she’s a human now? She was an elf with Boromir.) Oh, how silly of me, you’re a girl from modern day earth that was magically tossed back in time because of her grandmother’s locket, and you’ve somehow defied all laws of physics and reason in the process. Then would you explain to me why, in less than two hours, a 2,000-year-old elf fell in love with a human that sounds like she has brain damage? “It’s just like Romeo and Juliet!” No it’s not. “Love transcends all species!” Then buy yourself a goat. I hear they make wonderful companions.
The girls who write Boromir Mary Sue don’t want love, they want to be his Jesus.
The girl’s who write Legolas Mary Sue don’t want love, they want a dog.
There are other romances, of course, but since these two are single and human height, they seem to be the most common targets.
And why do most of them start in the council of Elrond? Is it just easier on your puny little brains? Are you not creative enough to even think of how they got there in the first place? Are you saying she’s Elrond’s daughter now? If you’re going to say that, you need to pick up the Silmarillion. No excuses, just pick it up and read the goddamned book. Or even cliff notes, I’d settle for those at least. And when there’s the tenth member of the Fellowship, it totally fucks with the significance of the numbers. Nine Walkers against Nine Riders. Nine, not ten. And don’t even talk to me about the fics where there’s a tenth rider.
No, please don’t start singing. Please stop. Stop! Stop it, you asshat! Would you explain to me what the Backstreet Boys are doing in Middle Earth?
That’s not how you draw a bow. The string doesn’t go past your head, honey. It stays near your face, where you can see it. And if you say it’s that heavy a pull, it will rip your ear off when you let go. If you’re going to get technical, make sure you use the right terms. Trust me, all the other archers are laughing at you. (And by the way, 300 lb pull is physically impossible unless you’ve magically become a walking, talking testosterone pill.)
I especially hate it when they use Japanese, but the absolute worst is when the oh so beautiful and smart heroine rescues Gandalf. I just won’t go into how wrong that is.
Tolkien must be spinning in his grave.

When I read the following exceprts, they made me cry:

"Boromir looked up and allowed his eyes to widen, there in front of him stood Aria, second daughter of elrind, with her softly curling black hair, soft as midnight, that fell befow her waist, and mysterious violet and silver eyes,"

Second daughter of Elrind. Violet and silver eyes.

The Princess-Assassin smiled more, "I come to keep the Sprites, the lower Elementals, from hurting you. They are Immortal and as such cannot be hurt except by an Immortal."

Immortal Princess-Assasin who can’t be killed except by other sprites/elementals. Nope, no trace of Sueism here.

… flashed a look at him again, eyes dark again. The dark eyes that flashed at him seemed to send out faint ripples of darkness, for all near the girl appeared, to Legolas’ eyes, to darken.

How very dark.

She could fight with sword and dagger, She was a master at archery, acrobatics, and Art such as sculpting with clay, carving wood and stone, oil paints and pencils, oil pastels and charcoal. Kero loved to dance in the small forest near her home where she road her white hoarse Nightingale.

This is only one example from the story. The writer spends the entire first chapter just describing how perfect and wonderful her character is (1,305 words) and how she’s rejected by all her other classmates. Boo hoo. This is a perfect example of Mary Sueism, and the author should be burned at the stake.

These are bad things. Why can’t these people just make up their own crappy stories, instead of messing with a great one? Or at least stick to writing lesbian Xena fantasies.

Yes, you’re entirely right! Obsession with a fantasy world to the point you apparently know it better than your reality is a truly pathetic thing! The only thing that’s possibly even more sad is when someone reviles their fellow travelers for inadequate fantasy world hipness.

One of my favorite quotes from Old Man Murray:

“Fan-fiction is an insult to anyone who has ever liked anything.”

I’m not sure the fanficauthortypes in question would do lesbian Xena fantasies–if they couldn’t put themselves into the story, it would most likely be something like Legolas-Gimli slash with a dash of Aragorn.

My goodness, I didn’t need that image!

I have seen some good "Mary Sue"s, but they definitely are the rare exception. A lot of fanfic out there is just plain bad.

There’s good fanfic, and there’s bad fanfic. And as a fanfic author I refuse to consider where my own works lay. :wink:

But if Lesath thinks LotR Mary sue stuff is bad, I recommend trying Digimon porn fanfic instead. Ewwwww, you have to take a bath and scrub yourself all over with steel wool afterwards for spiritual cleansing…

“dash of Aragorn” sounds like some sort of exotic spice.

And I’m scared shitless of Digimon, so I won’t even touch the porno of it. Those kids are how old?

I think Digimon/Pokemon characters are about 8-10 years old.

A lot of those particular eh…erotic stories are quite scary…

It’s a shame that there’s more bad fanfic than good, but it doesn’t surprise me.

wait;

females reading tolkien?

Uh;

females reading FANTASY books?

(actualy I /HAVE/ met one of them)

uh, teenagers READING fantasy books?

Fuck.

I remember I used to be the only kid in the library.

(literaly, had the run of the place).

So, err, damnit. Everybody must have gotten a respect for education rather quickly, nice to know that the next generation isn’t going to turn out screwed up and that the American schooling system is all back in order.

Ok, great, world ain’t going to come to a horrific end, everything is okey dokey.

:smiley:

:stuck_out_tongue:

Yah, the Digi-mon on Digi-mon ones are icck, the remaining ones are also, well, iccck.

Digimon fanfics with the header {some monsters name here} {some male chars name here} [mm] are just scary.

WTF!! Just messed. Not only homosexual preteen sex, but homosexual preteen sex with an imaginary monster!

Ah I know that song, heard it once to often. :wink:

No I surely agree with what you said, there are some decent fanfics out there but not many. As a long time member of the Final Fantasy (8) fandom I read a lot of fanfics and even :: cough :: written a few. :: cough ::

But Mary Sue and her multiple sisters are a thing were I need to play devils advocate for (at least a bit). MS fantasies are very common especially for kids, who of us hasn’t dreamed of flying with Superman, sitting in the van with the A-Team, being on the bridge of the Enterprise or waving a lightsaber? Naturally people who are inclined to write tend to bring these fantasies to paper (or wordprocessor). And thanks to the wonders of the internet we now have a medium to share these ideas (if we dare to). Communites like fanfiction.net arise and soon there is a place for people to share their MS fantasies, their fanfics and stories.

I am not saying MS stories arent often enough annoying as hell, but I try to delude myself with the idea that the writer will after he/she has gained some experience will try to aspire a “higher ground” of writing and start working out their own stories and characters.

The whole Slash/Yaoi/Yuri/Lemon thing on the other hand… :: shudders :: some things are definitely worse than unholy. rjung, you are an optimist when you think that this stain can be driven away with steel wool…

I’ve encountered a lot of fan fiction. Some of it is good. Anyone heard of the fantasy author Melanie Rawn? She was a fan author, known for her “Starsky and Hutch” fanfiction. I helped illustrate a Star Wars novella she did (under a psuedonym) right before she got her first novel published. And Eluki Bes Shahar is a successful mainstream science fiction author too. She used to do Star Wars stories (usually about Darth Vader and the Empire) and she also was a prettty good illustrator (interesting pen & ink style). I illustrated one of her stories too. Really nice lady.

There are some promising fan authors out there. One of my old friends is a veteran TV writer (no longer active) and she now writes fan fiction for enjoyment. I’ve been nagged into illustrating some of her stories. She’s good.

But for all the good authors, there are PLENTY of real stinkers. Oh my word. I am no fan of slash, but whatever floats your boat. One slash story I stumbled upon really revolted me, though. Remember the old '80s Gerald McRaney series “Simon & Simon”? Well, someone wrote a slash (incestuous) story about detective brothers Rick and AJ. Now, anyone who has seen the show will agree (and anyone who has not seen the show will agree) that is just warped. Beyond warped.

If you want to see the worst of it, take a look at a site called (logically enough) “Godawful Fanfiction”.

Some of this stuff is beyond tragic (and thankfully, nobody’s ever nominated one of my stories). I go and read a story or two whenever I’m having a crisis of confidence about my own writing abilities; compared to these people, I’m Shakespeare and Tolkien rolled into one. [sub]Of course, in comparison to these people, three hundred monkeys banging away on three hundred typewriters are pretty damned good too.[/sub]

A wonderful rant in the OP, and so very, very true. But I can come up with an example that’s worse than anything the OP mentioned.

I once got an E-mail from a girl. She wanted to use a picture of mine (a quick drawing a made of Boba Fett a few years ago) as a title graphic (or something) for a SW fanfic she was writing. She also wanted me to draw an image of her character (yeah, she was Mary Sue-ing). To give me an idea of what her character was like, she described how she manages to bring Fett’s emotions to light and the two fall in love.

Now, I’m betraying just how nerdly I am here… but “Boba Fett” and “emotions” are just two things that can’t connect. You might as well write a story where James Bond doesn’t bag the babe and doesn’t save the world.

Anyway… I learned to write by reading other people’s fanfics. Usually, they’re good examples of what not to do (however, when someone writes a good fanfic, it’s a REALLY GOOD fanfic).

I’m usually not into fanfic at all, but here’s a slash piece I enjoyed a great deal. It’s extremely short, but it’s sizzling with erotic energy and the characterizations are first-rate.

tavalla, I’d like to sincerely thank you for posting that link. See, I’ve been feeling really down lately, partly because I feel like I’ve been working on the same story for my entire life and it’s not getting anywhere and I’ve just realized I have no idea where the story really starts and the dialogue sometimes gets totally stuck and I just feel like I must be the worst writer in the entire universe and and and and
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!!

Now I know that I am not :eek:

Fantastic! I didn’t know this stuff existed! It reminds me of some site (link long lost sorry - so I can’t email it to anyone, let alone post it!!) someone showed me where fans wrote ultra-hard-core porn involving themselves and various real-life/fantasy famous people. So funny to see someone intimately describing the appearance of Mel Gibson’s scrotum…

Well, maybe she has one of each.

God-awful fanfic.com was my introduction to the “Mary-Sue” term, though I’d been writing Trek fanfic for several years. I immediately did a fast review of my work and found that I had guest characters (potential “Marty-Stu”, the male equivalent) who were clearly modeled on myself but (thank God) none of them were described as handsome and none of them saved the universe.

Now let’s not go tarring with a wide brush, here. I’ve read plenty of fan fiction in my day, and plenty of slash/yaoi, that was well-written, an honest and convincing interpretation of the characters, possessed admirable literary qualities (some of it has just blown me away - several slash fics have left me about to write to Paramount saying, “PRODUCE THIS!”). Hell, with Voyager, half of it is better than the actual series.

I know that several Trek character actors enjoy, encourage, and have even expressed their admiration for fanfic writers. To say nothing of web comics such as the still-amazing Boy Meets Boy, many of which encourage fanfic to the point where they host or link to archives of fanfic about their strip.

There are large quantities of truly bad yaoi/slash fanfic, and fanfic in general. But hell, there are large quantities of truly bad original material. In fact, I’d argue that there’s a sort of balance - the fanfic authors aren’t professional, but by the same token, they’re writing from love and inspiration, not from the profit motive that does little to produce shows of high artistic value.

I apologise, I didnt mean to generalise, I should have written certain Slash/Yaoi/Yuri/Lemon thing on the other hand… there are many good stories with sexual contend out there, for any taste, but there are also stories out there that are just crossing the line of taste.

Again I messed that line up, it was early in the morning for me.