Fargo S2

Wow! Just wow! Did. Not. See. That. Coming.
And the Hamburger Helper, nice touch.

Well that answered all of the questions from last week. Great episode.

Can Peggy and Ed even be charged with anything? They are probably free to go.

That is a great movie but it was directed by the late Tony Scott (Tarantino wrote the screenplay).

Just loved the episode tonight. Kirsten Dunst is amazing, a real revelation. I had no idea that she had the acting chops to pull this off.

I suppose the moral of the story is …

If you ever meet someone who served two tours of duty in Viet Nam and has two purple hearts and a bronze star …

Don’t go calling him a “half breed”. That is just not smart. Not smart at all.

And even though the film is full of the usual infantile racial blather found in all Tarantino scripts, the word “eggplant” is never used.

The word “eggplant” assuredly is used, and the relevant scene is popularly known as “the eggplant scene.”

The True Romance script certainly has all of the Tarantino hallmarks - “infantile racial blather” is one way to describe them. Tarantino lovers certainly know them by now. De gustibus and all that. What I find interesting is seeing a Tarantino script directed in a straight-ahead style of Tony “Top Gun” Scott. For True Romance, I think it works surprisingly well. The movie takes every action-movie convention and turns it on its head. Fall in love in the last scene? Nah, how about the first. Etc. Incredible cast, too - James Gandolfini and Brad Pitt both have scene-stealing turns in small roles, and Gary Oldman - well, he’s perhaps never been more better. A genius role for a true ham.

Back on Fargo: This is fast-becoming the very best TV has to offer. A similarity between the show, the broader Coen oeuvre and Tarantino movies - all seem to bring out the very best performances from the actors in them, and often iconic performances. There is a separate thread about signature songs. How about signature performances for actors, even great ones. Jeff Bridges? Javier Bardem? Frances McDormand? William H. Macy? The TV show likely won’t have the same signature potential, in part because the casts have been well established, in part because there is not as much focus on individuals. But Colin Hanks, Allison Tolman and even Jean Smart may have written their career signatures in the great north.

I must apologize for the upcoming “blather”. But I just can’t help myself. I want to comment on your post. I need to speak up and say that I really and truly enjoyed that post. I t would nevre have put me to sleep. That’s for sure!

“You’ve got to stop the stabbing.” I love how earnestly Ed said that.

That was another great episode. I loved the initial car ride scene with Peggy and Ed, with Ed in pure survival mode, thinking about how they can get away safely, and Peggy feeling self-actualized and free. And the short clip of Operation Eagle’s Nest where Reagan comes in and saves the day.

Yeah, it was funny seeing the newspaper with the information on the gang war on the front page for Ed to see and be able to call Mike Milligan. A bit convenient to the plot, but doesn’t bother me.

I’m sure that they could find plenty of stuff to charge Peggy and Ed with if they wanted to. Ed at the very least for escaping police custody, since he was with Lou when they escaped the situation at the police precinct and then ran back home. And both Peggy and Ed could reasonably be charged with impeding a police investigation, since they haven’t been working with the police and have definitely made things more complicated. And Peggy would have been okay just tasering Dodd and tying him up, but kidnapping is still against the law, even if it’s kidnapping a criminal. And of course hitting Rye and not reporting it (not even counting the improper disposal of the corpse because I don’t think the police have any way to know about that). I don’t know if they will be charged with anything, and if they were how much would stick, but they won’t be immediately free to go.

Are there two episodes left, or just one?

I loved seeing Dodd continuously underestimate women, right up to the end.

Did anyone else notice the hangman game on the window of the phone booth Ed was using? It spelled Sioux Falls and there was another word below that.

Two episodes left, the previews afterwards said one more episode until the season finale.

I agree, Dodd could have gotten away, or could have killed both of them, if he hadn’t underestimated women again. This was a crazy woman who had stabbed him twice already, and he still dismissed her as a threat. If anyone deserved to die, it was him, and it was great that it was by Hanzee’s hands, considering how much better he is than everyone else without getting enough respect from Dodd.

I had noticed the hangman game this episode and last and was wondering what that was about, and what the last word was.

I don’t think there was a last word. I did at first but then paused. Those were letters that were guessed that were wrong.

A great, great episode. Ed, the Mrs. and Dodd in the cabin were just terrific. Her citing the Geneva Convention (after twice stabbing Dodd!), Ed’s helping him pee, and Dodd’s through-gritted-teeth “No, thank you” followed by his death glare, had me laughing hard. Another favorite line: “Women: Can’t live with 'em, can’t turn 'em into cat food.” Very Coenesque.

Continuity errors? It’s supposed to be 1979, but Dodd’s blue Lincoln had 1974 South Dakota plates, and the calendar in the cabin showed “July 1974.”

Great scene with Hanzee laying waste to Sioux Falls (a little heavy-handed to show the 1882 Indian-hangings historic marker with the barf just below it, though). I didn’t buy that he’d want to get a haircut in the cabin just then, either.

That wasn’t Bruce Campbell, but another actor playing the young Reagan, right?

Obviously the hairdresser had sexual designs on Peggy. But did Hanzee rape and/or kill her?

So Dodd’s swagger and machismo got him killed. Poetic justice there. What an idjit. Notes to self: (1) Don’t turn your back on the crazy woman you just knocked to the floor. (2) When badly wounded and hurting, don’t insult the armed henchman who just rescued your sorry ass.

Yes, the delivery was great, but what he actually said was, “Hon, ya gotta stop stabbing him.”

That’s how I read it, too.

I don’t see that anyone mentioned the similarity between the TV program about the beetles in the movie and the one Peggy was watching last night. They were so similar, it could have been the same program.

Very interesting that Dodd tried to pass off some story to his mother about “The Butcher of Luverne” and now it has become the truth. It’s not exactly a “self-fullfilling prophecy” but it’s very similar.

I think it is very understandable why Hanzee finally snapped. He had just had enough of people bad mouthing his ancestors and he just lost it.

Very understandable.

Well, logically, (and I don’t think the word “logically” can apply here), Hanzee just killed two cops and engaged in a whole lot of mayhem. Logically, he can’t really leave any witnesses or he may get stopped from completing his mission. Of course, we are not at all certain just what his mission may be.

But I wouldn’t be surprised if we were never shown what happened to Constance. Just a funny feeling I have. However, there is not much profit in second guessing the show runner here.

I’m so sad there are only two epis remaining. So sad.

Does anyone have an opinion as to what Hanzee wanting a haircut was all about? Did he just finally lose the remainder of his mind? Or did he want to change his looks? There is a good joke to be had there … somewhere.

Probably just me, but I was expecting Peggy to do him in with the scissors and that Hanzee might have been prepared for that. Sort of a “suicide by cop” thing.

I thought Hanzee said, “I’m tired of this life,” when he was about to get the haircut. I read it as he killed Dodd and now he was going to change his appearance and disappear; whether or not he killed Peggy and Ed seemed very much up in the air.

this - and he knew if he killed Ed first, the haircut would not be ‘professional’.

I also read it that Hanzee was hoping for just a little human kindness. He was tired of being treated like a savage and Ed and Peggy might have got out of it by being nice to him (or maybe not, Hanzee is pretty unstable).

I liked the line when Hanzee had told the bartender about his service in Vietnnam and then said, “you’re welcome.”

LOL!! That was a good laff. Thank you.

Not professional indeed!

Does anyone remember another movie starting Billy Bob Thorton? I think he played a barber and he may have done someone in but it would have certainly been very “profesional”. Oh, for sure! IIRC that was another Coen Bros. film.

Was it The Man Who Wasn’t There (2001)?