Two more quick things regarding Peggy/Ed.
1)Peggy seems like she might be the type of person that can be easily talked into things by ‘friends’, but at the same time knows exactly how to get what she wants from men.
2)Regarding the birth control, in the early 70’s, it’s very likely most men wouldn’t know what it was even if it was sitting right there on the bathroom counter while they were brushing their teeth. That style of dispenser had probably been around for less than 5-10 years at that point and if he saw it he probably wouldn’t have any idea what it was. I’m guessing most men would just think it was a makeup compact. If he did see her taking it she could make up anything she wanted. “Just an antibiotic, honey, the doc thought I might have an sinus infection”. (This, of course, is on the assumption that he didn’t know anything about it to begin with).
Peggy’s boss is also pretty clearly a lesbian - and is after peggy for her own gain. I also happen to think that Peggy is a closet lesbian, based on the first episode around having a baby -
“To try, don’t we have to, you know”
“We did that last weekend, right?”
If she cared about his feelings, if she didn’t want him to find out she was lying to him about trying to conceive a child, she would hardly have “hid” the pills in their bathroom where he could have easily found them.
I would think she would have hidden them at her workplace - you know - from whence she stole all that TP.
The bathroom has to be a real stupid place to hide them and she is def not stupid. She just doesn’t give a shit about her husband. She doesn’t need any course. She clearly already considers her needs to be far more important than her husband’s needs and desires.
I don’t think you need to worry about Peggy and Ed going to jail. Like Lou said, they’re already dead, they just don’t know it.
And he’s partly responsible, because he knows they’re idiots, but he was relying on I don’t know what, their honesty or something, and trying to get them to volunteer that they were involved in a fatal hit and run, and only hinting that they were in danger, instead of just coming out and telling them that the local Mafia was way ahead of him, and it was probably a matter of hours before they were kidnapped and tortured.
I’m also a little mystified at how Milligan can be in town for a total of a few hours, part of that time so unaware of local matters that he hadn’t heard of a multiple homicide, and now share the full trust and intimacy of Gerhardt’s daughter.
I think it’s hilarious that with what, like six?, murders this week we’re talking about the birth control pills. I’ve mentioned earlier about how Fargo works best as a dark comedy, and dang it!, it’s the silliness of the characters’ actions that has us talking.
That and the youngest grandson shaking his hand after slapping the guy in the doughnut shop because it hurts when you hit someone.
Did Molly make an appearance this week?
No. In fact we were never even iside their house. Just at the Doctor’s office then the late night conversation outside the front door.
Are you sure? What about when Ted Danson was reading her a book? Wasn’t that Lou’s house? He was working late or in Fargo that night.
I agree that the outlook for Peggy and Ed is not good. Especially considering the seminar she wants to go to is in Sioux Falls, where last season Lou Solverson said he saw a terrible massacre. I had thought the massacre would be some crime family related thing, it would be funny and Coen-esque if it was set at a Lifespring seminar.
You’re right that Solverson could have been more forceful with them telling them what danger they were in. I think he might have held back because he doesn’t have hard evidence they were involved, just very intuitive (and correct) thinking. And also because of his story from Vietnam, they were in denial about things. I think he could have shown the pictures of all the criminals involved and terrible things they’ve done, and given them police reports, and dragged them to their car and given them money to run away, and Ed would be silent and trying to think of what to say and Peggy would be denying things the whole time.
Milligan seems to be strategic, and figured the daughter would be a good way to get info. But I’m sure it also didn’t take much. She seemed a little resentful of how she’s marginalized within the family. And also she specifically said something about how she can’t find any guy to go out with in town because they are all afraid of her dad. So then Milligan comes in, this handsome guy, who knows about all about her family business and so can listen to her bitch about her family, and who also isn’t afraid of her dad or the rest of the family, I’m guessing it didn’t take a whole lot for him to sweet-talk her to bed.
Also, I liked the scene at the beginning with Gerhardt and Dodd. It goes a long way to showing why Dodd is the way he is now, since he had to stab a guy when he was that young on his dad’s orders.
As far as the daughter goes, we have seen her father slap her around and tell her to “Shut Up”. In fact, I don’t think we have ever heard him say anything to her except, “Shut up”. It’s a good lesson for all parents. When you treat your child with nothing but hatred and violence, they will return that to you. I don’t remember exactly what she said, but when Milligan asked her if she would be OK with them killing her father, she didn’t have any problem with that.
I’d also like to remark about the character they refer to as “The Halfbreed”. Isn’t it amazing that the professional law enforcement officers spend hours and hours on this case and still really have no clue. But this Native American comes into town and within the space of a few minutes he finds some glass from the light in Peggy’s car and Rye’s belt buckle in their fireplace.
This guy must be an expert tracker and it’s no wonder the family keeps him around. They sent him to find Rye because it seems to me that no one could ever do a better job. This guy is just amazing!
I’m hoping it will be the Butters tap dance tragedy.
I agree she’s low-hanging fruit, but how would he even meet her? It’s not like they’re in the same math class; he spends most of his time in the back seat of his car with the windows up. How would he know she’s disaffected? How would he approach her without anyone else seeing it? He’s not exactly inconspicuous in that town. Had they ever even seen each other in a previous episode?
And even on The Americans, with professionals working with people predisposed to turn traitor, it takes more than a few hours to come into a new place completely cold and identify a target, let alone turn them and conspire with them as if they’ve know them for years.
Yeah, scenes like that make me keep watching. Also, I have nothing else to watch, other than sports, news, and late night comedy shows. I tried Supergirl last night, and turned it off after about three minutes.
I’m pretty sure he was at the meeting in the first episode that the Kansas City Mob was having, where they were discussing the Gerhardts, and how Otto had a stroke, and Floyd was somewhat in charge now even though she’s a woman, and how the brothers are competing to take over, Dodd especially, and how Rye is kinda a joke. If they had that intel and pictures, they probably also had intel on some of the other people associated, including the daughter, even if that info wasn’t in the slide presentation.
You’re right that it would be hard to bump into her, and that he would stick out in Minnesota, especially with the twin bodyguards who are always with him. But she did have that apartment to sneak off to where she thought Rye might be hiding out. She probably has a bar in the next town over where she goes to drink and her family isn’t as well known, or something like that. And we haven’t seen her enough to know why exactly she’d give out info on her family, other than she’s undervalued and her father is an asshole, but it also doesn’t seem out of character from what we’ve seen.
And this might not have been the first time they were together, Milligan could have been working on getting close to her for a while. Otto’s stroke was in the first episode, but I had the impression that their operation still was having some trouble before that, and so Kansas City might have already been working on plans of taking over, and decided to move forward on plans once Otto was mostly out of the picture.
All of those are good points. More than enough to make me suspend my disbelief.
I agree with the first part but not so much with the second part at this point. I think the whole conference thing is a scam and the main point is to go out and sell seats to other fish. And to get Peggy out of town away from her husband. Probably booked one room.
The second part is definitely conjecture by me at this point - we’ll see how it plays out. Regardless, she clearly wears the pants.
Hmmm… I’m gonna have to rethink that. I watched some of last week’s episode again and may have gotten both it and last night’s episodes confused.
Not the exact scene I was thinking of, but this is Molly as a child.
The guy on the left grew up to be Keith Carradine.
Missed the edit window…I was checking Joey King’s age. She’s only about 15 or 16 so she’s not nearly old enough to play a cop (not like these guys). But if the show carries on for another few years, she could pick up wherever Gus left off (I don’t recall, off the top of my head, how the Gus/Lester/Malvo thing played out).
So - definitely something ‘alien’ going on - Mathias (damn fine investigating) lost 2 hours in the street and they clearly did a camera thing to indicate something was going on with it.
So - not only do the Gearhearts know about Peggy/Ed connection, but the sherriff has put it together as well.
There was no Molly in this episode -
It was just a throw-away line, but I cracked up when the kid asked for an old fashioned donut and, in the middle of everything, his uncle expresses slight surprise at this choice. He probably thought the kid was a chocolate-and-sprinkles kind of kid, but is starting to learn otherwise.
I thought that the kid with the gimpy arm was going to kill Dodd when he was showing how he knew how to use a gun. It would have been a good counter point to the scene. I am glad that he didn’t because Dodd is such a great character.