Fargo S2

I didn’t catch the two hours of missing time. Little help?

Also, imdb shows the actor who plays Hanzee played someone named Mathias on Longmire. That’s a pretty obscure reference.

When he was in the wafflehut - he looked at the clock - ~7:05

When he was in the road - after the flashy light thing - he looked at his watch ~9:05

Earlier in the thread we noted it was the same actor that plays Mathias - I could not remember his Fargo char’s name (or even if we had heard one for him yet).

I missed something. Who is Mathias?

If you read the previous 3 or 4 posts, it is fully explained there.

And if you are joking, that’s actually pretty funny (although it’s not likely going to be funny to most people). So pls excuse me for stepping on the joke.

I hadn’t read those posts before posting. Barely heard of and never saw Longmire. References to character names from other, obscure (to me,anyway) shows is confusing. Having hard enugh time keeping up with these characters.

Please help me out with the locations…

The Waffle Hut, the butcher guy and his wife live in small town Minnesota I think.

They both work far enough away that there is bus service… I think.

The Gearhart Gang are in larger SD or ND town a significant distance away.

The odd thing about Mathias’ investigation at the Waffle Hut, is that it has been several days after the murders, yet the blood on the booth table still looked wet and bright red, not dried brown. Also, why hasn’t the owners of the Waffle Hut, cleaned up and re-opened for business. The same for the blood in the snow, still red. And he examined the tire tracks in the road as if they were from the car that would have hit Rye, where he finds the glass from the light lens on the car. Clearly the highway isn’t closed, there’s no way those tracks are from the car that hit Rye. When he finds the car in the repair shop, he examines the tread on the tire, like he’s matching it up to the tracks he say in the road.

No way that evidence is still that fresh several days later.

One thing that took me out of the episode, and maybe it’s just the fact that as a Texan I don’t have a lot of experience with snow being on the ground a long time, but it seemed odd that blood and glass from the accident would still be visible on the road a week after the event. It took me out of the show for a few minutes.

I mean, I can handwave the fact that nobody has apparently touched the diner. Maybe the cops have a hold on the scene or the heirs are fighting over who is going to do clean-up. Who knows.

But it’s been a week. There have been cars up and down that stretch of road for a week. The sheriff, the trooper, the Kansas boys, and who knows how many sightseers, all wanting to check out the scene of the Luverne Massacre, have been traipsing all over the blasted place. The parking lot and highway should be a mashed down, slushy, evidence-less plain at this point. Unless snow has some magical property of retaining original colors. Or, so help me, the freaking space dudes planting it.

So, folks with experience of snow, would any of the blood and glass in the highway still be findable a week later?

The last thing the owner of the butcher shop says to Ed is to ask him to check out the grinder cuz it’s making a funny noise.

I’d guess that something is going to come falling out of it that may prove to be embarassing.

Maybe a bullet from Rye’s gun? Anyone else have any guesses about that?

I can imagine some pieces of glass getting buried in snow and missed or ignored by the police. (Especially since this is the 70’s, not a post-CSI world where people expect high levels of forensic fine-tooth-combing.) If the weather stays cold I can see a blood stain remaining in the snow of a parking lot for quite some time, although it’s a stretch to imagine it lasting long on the highway. I’ve seen blood on the side of the road (from deer being hit) that is clearly visible days later, but if it’s being driven over it’ll melt / turn to slush / get dirty / splashed around and diluted with other slush in short order.

The bright-red blood inside the diner I can’t explain. Just a typical television convention, I suppose.

I believe they are all in Luverne, MN (population about 4,662 as of 2013). I’m not sure about the distance between their work and home. I wouldn’t imagine that Luverne has much of a bus service. The Gerhardt compound is in Fargo, ND.

I’d have to watch it again, but I’m pretty sure I remember that with at least some of those things, they were sort of showing us what Mathias’ tracking skills looked like in his mind’s eye by showing us flashbacks of a fresh crime scene.

thats a reasonable interpetation.

Another tidbit I just recalled noticing…

When “Mathias” was in the Blumquist’s garage and had noted the clean floor, sniffed the floor residue and identified the bleach on the shelf as the source, he looked back at the freezer and the scene cut away. The next shot them shows him entering the living room and immediately going to look in the fireplace. This seems to suggest that he found evidence in the freezer, knew the guy was a butcher, and immediately deduced that he would have used the fireplace to dispose of the non-body parts.

On a different note, it would also seem that he’s been able to figure out that it was all an accident. Retaliation on the Blumquist’s for Rye’s death and disappearance wouldn’t accomplish anything and could only cause more problems for everyone involved, all of which already have their own problems to deal with.

Which makes me wonder if he’s going to do the pragmatic thing and frame Kansas City for Rye’s death so as to help his side have a stronger cause to fight for.

ETA: (Might as well throw in this random observation) It’s funny to think about how if Peggy had just done the normal thing and stopped her car after hitting Rye, she would have been the town hero!

Plus when boss lady give Peggy a ride home from work one night she says something like “get your sweet ass in this car.” I totally missed the lesbian angle; but my wife said the same thing like it was very obvious.

He says his own name during his Vietnam monologue about “Just send Hanzee down into the tunnels, who cares if the Indian dies.”

I had a friend who was a tunnel rat. He said he did it because the Army paid him an extra ten dollars a month…

:smack:

ok then

I was just watching that episode. The boss lady says “c’mon, sexy, get in,” but her interest is made obvious in an earlier scene when she checks out Peggy’s ass while she’s hanging up her coat.

ETA: The boss lady character is Constance, played by Elizabeth Marvel.

I thought it was pretty obvious from the earliest scenes involving the two.

In fact, when the boss lady took her home, I got the impression that Peggy got uncomfortable when she started to come on to her.

Yeah, the salon owner was flat out coming on to her. When she found the stolen toilet paper, she called her naughty. I assumed that part of the reason she wants to take her to the out of town seminar is to try to sleep with her.