It seems that mswas got upset by my questions. But they were only questions. I never anywhere stated that I thought those words should apply to mswas. I only wanted to start some discussion about whether they should. Well, perhaps they do, and perhaps they don’t. Maybe he is not currently any of those words, but could become so later.
Now, do you see how the “innocent” asking of a question actually implies a certain point of view? No one asks “Is America fascist” unless there is some doubt about whether it is fascist or not. Therefore, your question implied that you believe that America is either fascist, or at least has fascist tendancies.
You were flamed, and rightly, not because you believe that America is on the road to fascism but because of the disingenous way you raised the subject.
Not to mention sorely lacking in reading comprehension skills.
Now, then, Erek, forgetting for the moment that you completely missed lemur’s point, let’s look at your actual (and only a little bit disingenuous) claims:
It’s deplorable. But how much beyond that sound bite do you actually know about the subject?
:shrug: That’s a very easy and convenient thing for you to say. I could make any spurious claims I want under that umbrella. Oh, wait, that’s art Bell.
I’m not doubting you, but I don’t know to which incident you’re referring. Cite, please?
Yes. You’re not the first to say that.
Could you please provide examples of fascist poicies endorsed by the Bush Administration? Oh, and while you’re at it, could you please provide a reasonably conceivable way that any adminstration could completely overturn the Constitution? Thanks.
Thanks you for conceding that.
Could you please cite that article? Thanks.
One final point:
Lemur called you nothing. If the shoe doesn’t fit, don’t fucking wear it.
Just because you are too stupid to understand a point, or my point offended you because it differed from the opinion CNN gave you, then I am very very sorry. I think that’s true, that’s my true opinion. I posted this thread pissed off, but I didn’t post that opinion pissed off, so just because you let my actual opinion troll your petty emotions and it bothered you enough to use it as evidence that I am a troll, then that’s your problem, it does not prove that I am a troll, you’re just a jackass. And since this is the Pit, I send a hearty “Fuck you” to your mother, I feel sorry for her having to give birth to you.
Here’s a CNN article describing the incident, and here’s a thread in GD discussing it. Personally, I think it’s wrong (the behavior of the airline), but I don’t see how that makes the US government fascist. Just the opposite, really, as the booted passengers are now perfectly free to start a class-action lawsuit against the airlines for unfair discrimination.
I got the sarcasm in his post, I just chose to ignore it, for whatever reason that was going through my mind at the time. I guess I just wanted to point out which shoes I was wearing.
Let me get down to some business, if I can possibly find the articles I was talking about. Too many articles on teh subject on every site I’ve been reading it’s hard to get back to em.
This one has nothing to do with the US and fascism but it’s fucking fascinating.
Someone else already posted about the arabs being kicked off the flight so I’ll forgo that one.
The article about the civil liberties being taken away was on Salon.com,
I am gonna bow out of this thread. I couldn’t find that site, and I admit I started it with hostility so I guess I was trolling, and I’m just gonna sit here defending my behavior, as not a whole lot is coming good from it, though a few people did post some stuff that I found to be very interesting. I’m gonna focus on my other threads and getting myself edumacated and not getting so damn worked up about things.
Anyhow, thanks to all of you that taught me some stuff.
Thanks, Sublight–it’s the first I’ve had to actually read the story.
Erek, I’d appreciate it if you either addressed my questions and comments or admitted that the proposition that the US is now or is becoming fascist is entirely untenable.
