Fat-burning heart rate

After visiting a number of sites that claim to calculate the ideal heart rate for fat burning and getting perplexing results, I turn to the brightest people I know - yes, that’s you guys - instead.

The way I understand it, there is a range within which you burn the maximum amount of fat. Above it, you burn more carbohydrates and far above it you pretty much burn only carbohydrates.

I am trying to burn as much fat as possible, and currently my cardio regime is a 45-minute session at 140+ beats per minute every other day, finishing off with 6½ minutes of 30-60 interval training. When I step off the bike that feels like pretty much the limit of what I can do right now.

Since my resting heart rate is very low - around 45 if measured in the morning when I wake up - most target heart rate calculators give me rates that are way below 140. For example, one calculator says I should stay between 95 and 125. 45 minutes at 125 beats per minute; I could do that standing on my head. Surely there must be more effort to it than that?

So, how do I calculate my true target heart rate for maximum fat burning? Am I burning fat with my current cardio regime or wasting time (apart from strengthening my heart, of course)?

I am a 28-year-old male, 167 cm tall, weighing around 63-64 kg.

All of the widely available heart rate formulas are for sedentary people. With a resting HR of 45 bpm, that ain’t you. Even if you were sedentary, the formulas wouldn’t really be all that accurate. Your best bet is to get an impedance scale and measure relative changes with that.

Impedance scales are those that measure body fat percentage, right? I have one of those, but it seems to be wildly inaccurate (unless it’s normal for a 167 cm 63 kg weightlifter to have a body fat percentage swinging wildly between 21% and 26%, which sounds unlikely to me).

So there’s no way to find out my optimal heart rate? Should I find a place that performs stress tests, find out my maximum heart rate and ask for help calculating my optimal heart rate?

Are you measuring at the same time of day with similar levels of hydration?

Heart rate is something of a red herring. From Qadgop in this thread:

Thence the suggestion to focus on your body fat levels rather than your heart rate.

Immediately in the morning when I get out of bed, and immediately after a cardio workout, and in the evening before the last meal of the day (but since my food schedule is rather fluid I do not trust the evening measurements too much since my “time since last meal” will be very different from day to day).

The scale was kind of cheap, so I’m afraid I’ve simply got one that doesn’t work properly. Even if we ignore the variations, I have a hard time buying that I’m at 21-26% body fat right now (where was I then before I started training and controlling my diet - 35%?) and that my body fat percentage has barely changed while I’ve dropped three kg and visibly developed muscles.

Not super accurate but most of what I have heard is that sustained exercise past 20 minutes (ie walking, running, aerobics etc) or so usually puts you into the “fat burn” range.

Aerobic Versus Anaerobic Exercise

Exercise Intensity Versus Fat Burning

IIRC “fat measuring” weight scales were tested by CR some time ago and were determined to be wildly inaccurate to the point if uselessness.

astro, your second cite is one of the sites I found while searching myself. It puts my Fat Max Zone (which sounds like a trendy if slightly unpleasant night club) between 125 and 183, which is a pretty big range but sounds most credible of the ones I’ve found.