Just a wild guess as to what he’d do on my part. I’ll guess that he’d eat them for supper.
TVAA: As jarbabyj said, you’ve mentioned predation as a way of dealing with unwanted dogs and cats (and, one presumes, other domesticated animals, but that’s another topic). However, despite multiple attempts to guess what you mean by that, apparently no one has fully understood you. Care to explain what you mean, if no one has gotten it right yet?
No.
Remember the subject of the OP? It’s … please help me not feel so bad.
So to sum it up for all the dunderheads out there, let’s return to the real OP, not the imaginary one in TVAA’s head.
I’ve thought of Aries, and sent her? healing vibesLady Venom I just didn’t want to jump into such a nasty fray at the time. You did what was right for you, and your family including Aries. That’s what matters.
It’s rather similar to the way deer populations should be controlled: by allowing natural predators to catch and eat them.
The problem is that we’ve killed off all of the predators (wolves, bears, cougars)… and so deer starve to death and strip large areas of all edible substances, seriously harming forests and gardens.
We insist on having animals as pets? Then we have to adapt to what they are instead of adapting them to what we want them to be.
They breed too rapidly? If there isn’t a counterbalancing force that will eliminate the excess population, then we shouldn’t have them at all. They scratch furniture? pee on the carpet? bark at strangers? Accept their characteristics or don’t get them in the first place.
(Just releasing them into the wild would be a lot more dangerous that you realize… dogs have lost most of the instincts that make it possible for wolves to survive in the wild. A pack of wolves is generally harmless to humans. A pack of wild dogs is a life-threatening menance.)
If ‘pets’ can’t establish an ecological niche, we shouldn’t have them in the first place.
I had my cat declawed twice, then had her mutilated little digits replaced with #9 Dorrance steel hooks. Sometimes I stick little cheese cubes on 'em for parties and have her walk around as an ambulatory hors d’oeuvre service.
She likes it.
You anti-declawing pinheads are very, very stupid.
So basically, TVAA you’re against people having pets at all. Good luck on that campaign.
And here’s a newsflash: everything on this earth must learn to adapt to its surroundings. Cats and dogs are domesticated, and their habitats are becoming carpeted, furnished homes, rather than lush fields. Cats happily use litter boxes, dogs do their business on newspaper or outside. Part of the benefit of being kept alive and healthy (vaccinated, well fed, protected from predators) is making small sacrifices to adapt to domestication (declawing).
No, cause then I’d be the pet. Much as I love my cat, she does dictate my actions. I dictate hers.
My little Porkchop still has her claws, but that’s because she displayed no tendency to claw my furniture. If she had, she’d have been declawed without a single pang of conscience or a look back. I don’t wish her any pain, but things in my house will be as I want them to be.
And before you idiots trot out the dumbassed “I hope you don’t have kids” line, please look up the difference between “human” and “pet” in the dictionary. You may find the difference enlightening.
But probably not.
More would die this way, because people wouldn’t be willing to adapt.
Too bad we can ask Venoma’s cat, I’m sure it’s far happier at home then out on the street.
So - you cat is Wolverene?!?! Coooooooool. 
So - your cat is Wolverene?!?! Coooooooool.
Canis Lupus Familiaris niche is living with humans. They’ve been doing it for about 14000 years(cite OTOMH, National Geographic.). You admit in a previous post that they’ve lost many wolf traits.
They’ve been adapting to us for a long time now. Among the results, dogs flourish and suffer from over population while wolves are endangered.
Still waiting on what you meant by “predation,” TVAA, since apparently no one has guessed your little secret yet.
Amazing. TVAA, you’re great at philosophising (insanely, but still), but not very good at answering direct questions. You’re a rube.
My uncle once released my grandmother’s cat into the wild, in the middle of winter, because he decided it was too much hassle to keep. He figured that was more “humane” than giving the animal to a shelter; that it gave it a “fighting chance” since the shelter would put it down if no one adopted it.
I haven’t spoken to the horrible bastard since.
Esprix
Allow me to be an insensitive bitch.
TVAA, these are not human beings. They are animals that are not capable of rational thought and that have been bred over countless generations to be domesticated. They do not have civil liberties. They should not have civil liberties. They are not more important than humans, they have not established a civilization, and until my baby-cat Zipper comes up to me and says, “You remember seven years ago when your mom had me declawed? Well, I’d rather be dead. I know that I still purr all the time and still chase things, but, goshdarnit, my life isn’t complete without the ability to climb to the top of the living room curtains! I would’ve prefered to be euthanized on the spot rather than live this half-life,” then I’m not going to fucking feel guilty about giving her a home and food and water and a loving family.
You have proposed no practical solutions–indeed, the only solution to your issues would be for someone to travel back in time to ensure that cats and dogs were never domesticated. You have given no rational opinions. All you’ve done is bitch and moan. You are being a fuckwit, and, moreover, you are being a fuckwit who contends that the survival of our own progeny should not be more important to us than the survival of our pets. You make me fear for the future of the human race.
If Kage Baker is right in her Company series, and we end up with a Beast Liberation Act, then I hope I fucking die before I see it; then will we see true cruelty to animals.
Thanks, TVAA! That actually made me laugh out loud.
Listen here you silly little moo; until you actually start answering questions rather than all this if you don’t know what I’m talking about exactly then you’re clearly a moron type-nonsense, no-one is even going to attempt to take you seriously.
Not that I think they would in any case. We do not live in a natural world any longer my friend - humanity has done a pretty good job of making the world work more-or-less the way WE want it too, and darn to the natural order of things.
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as it is still too late, but i thought i would add that I have a friend that uses soft claws and they work very well.
All 4 of them are, yes, including the one who is declawed. (The second one in this house, who retains his claws, is terrified of anything and everything that the outside is, once you take the protective window away)
I’m glad Aries is doing well, Lady Venom. 
Sounds like she’s got her some posh digs, living with you! (I always wanted to set up a room like that for the cats…)
Ah, de-clawing is nowhere near as bad as breeding some animal 'till it’s face is concave. Whoa! I insulted purebread animal breeders! Worse than introducing Nazis? You decide.
Anyways, our cat is declawed. After all, it used to be a dog, so they threw in the extra work for free.
Any other details?