Are they participating in the protest?
Then they are as much a part of BLM as the tea partiers portraying Obama as a witch doctor are part of the tea party
Are they participating in the protest?
Then they are as much a part of BLM as the tea partiers portraying Obama as a witch doctor are part of the tea party
Shouting death threats?
You have a cite for any of this?
You still haven’t provided a cite for the warning that if the city burns is on the DA
Ok. That’s pretty damning.
They really ought to replace the entire Minneapolis NAACP with more level headed people. If the city burns is on the heads of the people who light the fire. It is irresponsible to imply that rioting is justified because an elected district attorney doesn’t find there is enough evidence to indict policemen who killed a suspect. We still live in a functional democracy. Rioting is inexcusable and making these sort of statements is grossly irresponsible.
In this particular case, they seem to be justifying it. That rioting is the result of what the district attorney did (or declined to do)
comparing Black Lives Matter with Martin Luther King is disgracing the legacy of Martin Luther King.
I’m comparing the movements, not the people. As for the movements, they are indeed comparable, at least according to the vast majority of living civil rights protesters, like John Lewis, who worked closely with MLK Jr.
I know at least 20 people who have attended BLM protests and none of them have had anything bad happen to them. They are relatively frequent in DC, and there hasn’t been any violence that I’m aware of at any of the dozens of protests here over the last year or so.
I won’t disagree that decisions by authorities can contribute to anger that can lead to rioting, but I’ll disagree with anyone who claims that this is a justification for violence.
The Tea Party had protests against obamacare almost every day for a while there and there were very few riots IIRC. So in this way the Tea Party is actually better than BLM. Good job BLM.
And yet we have leaders of the NAACP telling the DA that if the city burns its the DAs fault. Not the rioters fault (because they are being FORCED to riot. Not the BLM leader’s fault for failing to get out ahead of any potential violence. Nope, its the DA’s fault for not metaphorically handing the police officers over to the lynch mob that formed outside his office. This tells us something about the BLM movement (assuming you think that the NAACP is involved with the BLM movement).
Trump supporters don’t actually riot or loot stores but otherwise, I am willing to concede that BLM is only a little worse than the average Trump supporter. Good job BLM.
How violent were the tea party protests? BLM fails to match the standards of the Tea Party and you think its win?
At their best trump supporters sound a lot like Bernie supporters. They bemoan the influence of money in politics and choose a self funding candidate. They bemoan the influence of corporations and their influence in government. They bemoan the effect of using global trade as a diplomacy tool has had on American workers.
If Trump supporters ONLY did this, we wouldn’t think they were horrible either.
At their best, Hamas is a humanitarian organization that builds schools and hospitals and conducts lot of charitable work. never mind that tiny sliver of hamas that blows up innocent civilians in Tel Aviv, that’s the rare exception.
Wait, they’re counting Colin Ferguson or some high school cheerleaders taking a knee while WWII veterans hold the flag for the national anthem? That’s not protest, that’s just disrespectful.
The NAACP is preemptively laying the blame for any violence at the feet of the district attorney. That doesn’t sound like a movement that is dedicated to non-violence.
Considering how many hundreds of peaceful BLM protests there have been, I think it’s reasonable to believe that they’re as peaceful or more peaceful on average than these others you mention. In many cities there have been hundreds of such protests without any violence at all.
That was one person, and there are far, far more statements by other NAACP leaders (and from other groups) condemning violence without reservation.
How is that not protest?
You complain that if a large number of people get together for a protest, there is a chance for violent activity to break out, and then you complain if a protest involves a single person (or small group of people), with no chance of violence breaking out.
Protests that are “respectful” in that they have no chance to offend or bother anyone don’t get noticed.
I’m starting to think that you just don’t like what they have to say, no matter how they say it.
This is crazy talk! Shooting sprees, arson, looting, and racially-motivated mob violence have not (to my knowledge) happened at Trump rallies or Tea Party protests. All of those cases of extreme violence have happened at BLM protests. In no rational worldview can it be said that the group that has had shooting sprees and arson at their protests is “as peaceful or more peaceful” than groups that have not. That’s just insane!
I don’t think that’s true at all. The Tea Party managed to get noticed without resorting to arson and looting. They didn’t have to block traffic or throw things at the police.
Well, yeah. Most of them have weak hearts and arthritis.
I am not really trying to emphasize the fact that they are assholes. I am emphasizing the fact that including them in the denominator as “protests” to show how few of the “protests” turn violent unreasonably dilutes the pool of protests to the point where the term becomes relatively meaningless for our purposes.
I don’t complain of large protests, just the ones that seem to turn violent with relatively high frequency. The Tea Party marches got pretty large sometimes and they didn’t have a lot of looting associated with them.
I don’t really have a problem with people offending me with their protests. But do you really think this is what we are talking about when we talk about how frequently BLM protests turn violent?
What do they have to say other than bringing attention to police brutality and the fact that this brutality is disproportionately concentrated on black victims? I don’t disagree with that. I disagree with the rioting and looting. I disagree with people making it seem like the violence and looting is actually pretty rare by stuffing the denominator with high school cheerleaders taking a knee during the national anthem.
There have been several incidents of violence and looting. In all the years of tea party rallies and marches by racists and facists in the tea party, I don’t recall very many riots breaking out or businesses getting looted or buildings getting burned down. Its not acceptable and trying to blame the DA for it is not acceptable.
If you see what I was replying to, you would see that I was talking about when one, or a small group of athletes kneels instead of stands for the national anthem. DA, did not seem to think that that was a protest, just being disrespectful. The tea party was definitely disrespectful towards Obama, and that’s what made them get noticed. If not a single tea parties had had racist signs, shirts or chants, then they would have gone unnoticed.
I am not sure how you get from that to arson, looting, blocking traffic, or throwing things at the police, or were those cheerleaders a bit more riled up then I thought they were?
Really?
What riots and looting have been associated with Tea Party events? How about BLM? Good job BLM!!!
Cite? Or are you including taking a knee at football games as protests?
It was a spokeswoman for the NAACP.