Ferguson, MO

Sure it is. There’s any number of things it could be.

To borrow the language from State v. Mast, a person of ordinary intelligence would have understood there was urgency from the officer’s words. He gives a specific timeline, and repeatedly and strongly urges the reporter to move, and the reporter clearly is seeking to slow and and delay. Forget the supposed packing – how about the conversation after he’s away from the table? He’s delaying, and almost anyone watching the video would agree. Certainly his conduct is enough to allow the officer to conclude there’s probable cause he’s delaying.

Me, too. Probable cause is easy on the “refusal,” part. The existence of an unlawful assembly at that time, at that scene is not clear to me.

I’m not sure I have one. I tend to agree with Sicks Ate that the cop probably wasn’t contacting him in connection with the robbery. Hopefully this will come out in the investigation. Like Sicks Ate said, you’d think the robbery would have been a mitigating factor the cops would want to get out there. The fact that they didn’t is, well, interesting.

Exactly. Maybe he wanted to recruit him for the force. Big strong guy like that. And they say they were having a hard time recruiting black officers.

The cops have been very tight-lipped in general.

Does the officer have the lawful authority to set out a specific timeline that must be adhered to?

Do you care to respond seriously?

Why wasn’t the alleged accomplice arrested at the scene?

That’s not how it works.

It’s uncommon for cops to pull people over on the sidewalk. Happens but it’s uncommon. It’s extremely likely that the cop pulled him over in connection to the robbery - Brown was a pretty distinctive guy due to his size.

But even if he didn’t, and it was just a remarkable coincidence that he happened to pull for some unrelated reason a guy who happened to commit a robbery 10 minutes earlier, what counts is what Brown thought. And a guy who just robbed a place and was stopped by a cop 10 minutes later would be thinking there was kind of a high degree of likelihood that he’s about to be arrested for the robbery, and his reaction would in all likelihood reflect that.

In a court of law. On a MB, that is how it works.

Roughly an hour.

But you have an example already of someone who doesn’t think that situation meant with a high degree of likelihood that he’s about to be arrested - me. Why couldn’t Brown think the same?

Typically, cops don’t release anything until they have investigated it. I wouldn’t expect them to mention it until they were ready to proceed with their case.

Not where the implication is that the shooting was somehow justified by this.

The other side of the coin. If this was a felony stop by the officer, why didn’t he already have his gun drawn?

WADR, I don’t think this is any room for serious doubt about this issue, and I’m not going to get bogged down arguing it, so we’ll have to leave it here.

That’s a completely unrelated matter.

If this guy’s lawyer admitted he did it, then we can say he did it without worrying about inserting “suspected”. The implications are another matter.

He was a suspect in a savage shoving incident, and still had the weapon on his person, being located on the end of his arms!

As to the other guy, the report suggests that Brown handed him a box of cigars, which he returned.

I don’t know what began at 11, but according to the incident report, the call came in at 11:51.

Roughly 10 minutes. :slight_smile:

I would’ve said that my believing something was pretty good reason to have serious doubt that a person could not believe that thing, but hey, it’s your mind.

I think you set the threshold for serious.

That’s Reverent Threshold.