FIFA Women's World Cup 2015

I don’t think it’s common. At least, I haven’t noticed it much in the games that I’ve watched, with the notable exception of the Men’s World Cup five years ago. The stands were full of noisemakers called vuvuzelas, apparently some sort of traditional thing in South Africa (the host country), and they were horrendously obnoxious. FIFA banned them from the World Cup tournament in Brazil last year.

I’ve never heard of it and doubt it happens at any high level of competition. Possible, but doubtful- no cite, just my feeling. (To be fair, Italy’s top league endured a match-fixing scandal a few years ago, but I don’t think it involved referees.) The unfortunate thing is just that refereeing soccer is hard. The ref has to make an instantaneous judgment on the degree of contact, how much it interfered with the opposing player, whether it was intentional or avoidable, and often whether the player contacted the ball or the opposing player first. (Short of outright dangerous plays, if a defender makes contact with the ball first, it’s interpreted as a legitimate play, while contact with the player first is a foul.) Now, granted, that’s true of many other sports, too, but for soccer, you have to add onto these factors the (also subjective and instantaneous) advantage rule, wherein a foul can be ignored if the victimized team appears to be pressing ahead with an offensive opportunity that would be killed with a whistle, and the propensity of some players and teams to fake contact in hopes of drawing a foul (MUCH worse in the men’s game). Finally, unlike most other team field sports, there’s only that one official to blow the whistle, and the field is one of the largest of any sport- much of the time the ref is either a long way away or at a bad angle to see exactly what’s going on but still has to make those decisions anyway.

“The officiating in that match was terrible”- such has been said of probably every single soccer game since the sport was invented. I’ve said it myself many times, and in truth there seems to be a larger-than-usual number of people saying it about the U.S.-Colombia game. But, well, it’s just a really tough job.

What many forget, though, regarding faking contact, is that many situations can still be fouls without contact:

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[li]kicks or attempts to kick an opponent[/li][li]trips or attempts to trip an opponent[/li][li]strikes or attempts to strike an opponent[/li][/ul]

Simulation needs to punished when the referee can determine it happens, but the lack of contact does not necessarily mean there was not a foul.

Thanks for the explanation, Haunted Pasta.

With all the comments about opinions about fouls and especially the US vs Col game fouls & referee, I wonder:

How many in this thread are or have been a referee of at least ‘State Two’ or higher ( or the equivalent of that level other than the US ) in an FIFA approved referee program?

This would be one who does any level of armature adult games, semi- professional games, high school & college games. men or women in same, etc.? All levels of youth games from recreational to premier, etc.

From the lack of comment about those players who can be seen to fake contact and so blatantly from the Colombians in the US vs Col game but not limited to that game and the level of consistency or sorta consistency of all the other referees in contrast to what the referee did in the US vs Col game justify their defense of that referee?

All people have opinions which they are free to have, just as it should be. What needs to be known is the qualification of those giving them.

I have known so many professional players that know less than 10% of the laws of the game.

Most fans in general think soccer has rules when if fact, the game has only laws.

How many of the laws do not start with, “In the opinion of the referee?”

Those of us watching on TV have the advantage of multiple views, close ups, slow motion that the ref does not but so many of the calls are correct. Compare to the one or two outliers that we have seen in this tournament.

Remember in the past men & women world cups the referees who never did another game in that tournament?

As I see it right now, I think the final outcome will be :confused:

Germany
Japan or France (any given day )
China or Australia (any given day )
USA

At the end of it all I will probably be :smack:

Germany, USA, Japan, Canada.

Germany, Japan.

Germany.

That was as clear of a foul as you’ll ever see. The only potential controversy at all is whether it was in the box, but there’s absolutely zero way that that’s not a foul at all.

I would compare this game to the Brazil/Australia game, where the ref just wasn’t fooled by the diving Brazilians. So, I’m comparing two refs at the same level.

Dibs on the band name. Or …

It was a foul but I think 9 out of 10 times that one would have been called as being outside of the penalty area.

Hey, it’s FIFA. If we eventually learn that there were instructions to the ref to try and influence a match it wouldn’t surprise me in the least.

Doesn’t matter. She missed her target. Foul all the way.

Yeah, there is this misunderstanding that if it’s not intentional then it can’t be a foul. The wife even said that the other day: “But she didn’t mean to do it.”

Doesn’t matter.

Yeah, odd notion. What percentage of fouls are intentional? 5%?

France vs. Germany is wall to wall action so far. France have had the run of play but it’s still 0-0.

It’s been a terrific match, and I’d say Germany are fortunate to be level. France have looked the stronger and more dangerous side, overall.

“No shortage of good football…” indeed!

After a dozen amazing chances, France gets one in off a poor clearance and a lucky deflection. France up 1-0.

France have broken through, deservedly so, in the 64th minute. Terrific match, this!

PK for Germany due to a handball in the box!

Germany have never missed a PK in the World Cup…

And…

1-1!!!
I hope France pull this out, they clearly deserve it.

Agreed. That penalty seemed unavoidable to me―ball to hand―but so it is.

I haven’t been able to watch the game, but has the ref been as bad as a live thread is claiming?