Finally, a victory for people who aren't complete fucking retards

I was browsing this forum before and saw this thread title but didn’t think much to open it. Then I just came upon an article about the OP, came here to find a discussion about it, saw the thread title again and thought “well, this must be the place”.

If bibles make their way into our public schools, we got bigger problems.

Much better, thanks! I’ll plant one right on the old donut hole for ya.

Actually, it’s not contradicted by physical evidence, but I don’t think we need to get into this here. Let’s just say that I disagree and we’ll leave it at that.

stickers!

Awww…c’mon. You know what I meant. Plus I work at night and I posted that right after I woke up. :slight_smile:

True that.

Considering that Pennsylvania’s own Senator Rick Santorum has come out in favour of a school district that’s trying to teach intelligent design, believe me, it ain’t just the south. No part of the country has a monopoly on religious idiots. :rolleyes: One of these days, I’ll decide whether that’s a good thing.

CJ

Except for school libraries, right?

Cool, let’s add that to the sticker.

We studied the Bible in World Literature in a public high school. Also the Upanishads, the Quran, and some other stuff.

I think the problem would be exposing students to the Bible in any situation where that sticker would be needed, i.e. a science class.

Um … were there stickers in your high school science books?

Notice, please, that the ruling came from a judge in Atlanta.

Further, in standard written English in the 21st Century, both South (as an area of the country) and Century (designating a specific century) are capitalized.

SDMB is about fighting ignorance, not promoting bigotry – even in the Pit. Of course, if you choose non-standard written usage, I will do my best not to make any assumptions about your lack of education. I don’t want to prejudge you, newbie.

Well, yeah, I’ve read some of it myself and it can be pretty good in parts, it wholly has merit being discussed as a piece of literature; the problem is that some people can’t seperate the literature part from the religion part. In high school and Uni this probably isn’t a problem. The Bible doesn’t belong in science class though.

Just to clarify, when I say creation, I mean the people trying to assert that the world is literally 6000 years old. At least stuff like Intelligent Design is making an effort to mesh itself with science in some way, though I still don’t think it has any place in a science class.

I gotta wonder, if their kids’ faith is so shaky that teaching them about archaeological history at school is going to rend it all asunder, then maybe their devout parents aren’t totally doing their job at home. Or maybe it’s just really about exposing other people’s kids to the loophole that evolution is just a theory, so it’s easier to win/maintain converts down the line. It’s a bit cynical I admit, but it’s been the evangelicals that I’ve noticed doing this kind of thing to begin with. AFAIK Catholics don’t have a problem with evolution. And I don’t notice them wanting to include say, Hindu or Muslim stories of Creation, in the interest of fairness. Because they could all or none be right, but I’m going to lean in favour of just reporting the facts we do know with relative certainty and what jives with the fossil record.

Since you’re back in school, take some science classes and you’ll discover the Biblical account in Genesis just isn’t adequate to explain the natural world.

What’s kind of sad is the content of the sticker is not technically incorrect, but so few people understand why. If they did, the statement would merely be construed as silly (sort of like saying cars are not petrol), versus something meant to cast spurious doubt.

I never said it was. However, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Moreover, I have never maintained that Genesis is a literal account.

Anyway, I’m not going to get into this. At the end of this path lies futility.

Woosh! Relax, oldie.

For those unfamiliar with the Atlanta area, Cobb County (which I’m afraid I call home) isn’t really what I would call a backwards redneck type area. It’s actually more of a typical suburb, but does seem to be heavily religious. While most here are of the more moderate religions, they do usually represent the more conservative wings of said religions. The Methodists here, for example, are nowhere near as laid back as the Methodists I grew up with. I’m proud to say that both my wife and myself voted for Kerry and against the ban on gay marriage, but we were GREATLY outnumbered in both categories. My wife even joked about being lynched when she pressed “No” to the gay-marriage ban, as the touchscreens were visible to those nearby.

This textbook issue made the news a few weeks ago in the main Atlanta alternative mag, and I was happy to see that there are at least a few folks here that were against it.

Just doing my part for the Atlanta tourism industry by letting you all know that Atlanta proper (which is really Fulton County) isn’t in the dark ages. :slight_smile:

So you agree that a literal interpretation of the Biblical account of creation is unsupported by the physical evidence?

Yeah, admittedly I was a bit flippant in my remark. I did specifically mean bibles in public school to spread religious dogma.