Took the test. Turns out I’m a Eu-ro-pe-an A-mer-i-can.
Fuck! That’s eight politically correct syllables! Just call me white! Or craker. Or whatever. Just don’t call me the eight syllable pc word. I don’t want it!
Same here, not that I’ve ever heard the term before. It seems particularly ill-chosen since I bet my ancestors came to this country (in part) because Europe didn’t want them.
Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between White and Black.
Damn straight. I hate everyone equally.
The test also implies that “races” exist in anything other than the most general terms, which is kinda wrong.
I haven’t taken any of the test, but from the descriptions, they look like bunk.
How can any test purport to be valid when it tells me what it’s going to find before I start? Hasn’t it been demonstrated that if you tell a subject what you want to hear, they will subconsiously try to please the researcher? I can’t believe this was developed by Harvard researchers - it’s really poorly designed.
And given the range of tests, I think all the “results” are suspect. This is a page full of tests flat out telling the me it is going to find that I am racist against blacks, Arabs, and gay or fat people, and think men are good at science and women shouldn’t have careers. Screw that.
I quit on the very first test when it asked me a ascribe “bad” or “good” to faces. I don’t make value judgments based solely on skin color, not even when it’s just on some stupid online test. What a piece of crap.
Yeah, that’s pretty much what it’s testing for . . .
I tried out a lot of these tests the last time they were posted. If I remember, I had a slight preference for white people over black people. I’m not threatened by the idea that I might be subconsciously racist. I know I’m not overtly racist, but I don’t know if I can claim for certain that my subconscious mind is entirely free of any automatic attitudes that I might not consciously agree with. In fact, the test struck me as essentially a clever idea. But mostly I seemed to have trouble with the whole retraining bit, same as everyone else. The test claims they compensate for that effect, but it’s not clear to me how they could except by adjusting whatever the hell number they’re gathering by some average factor - which means that you’d expect anyone who retrained either slightly faster or slightly slower than average - regardless of their own innate attitudes towards black people - would end up with skewed results.
Incidentally, though, they have several tests on that page; while one of the tests is black/white, others are not. I’m not sure why people decided that this signals some sort of bias on the part of the experimenters; they seemed to have tests associated with several different racial groups.
Um, why? In the context of the test, that is. This is not a test of genetic traits associated with different ethnic backgrounds. It’s a test of attitudes towards races. Race is a cultural construct, sure. I don’t know why you think that fact is supposed to magically alter the attitudes of everyone in the world, though.
It didn’t ask you to do that. You seem to have missed the entire concept here.
What else would you call it when they ask you to group faces into “Good” and “Bad” categories based on skin color? At this point, I don’t care at all about the concept. You can waste your time filling out a flawed and slightly offensive test. I closed the window.
Again, that’s entirely not the concept. You may feel that it is offensive to even discuss racism; I disagree. At any rate, I think the test is methodologically questionable. But if you find it “offensive”, you didn’t get the point.
But I don’t think this is what it asked.
IIRC, it asked you to categorize faces as white or black, and concepts as good or bad. It then arranged the choices so that for part of the test you used one button to select both the white faces and good concepts, and another to choose both black faces and bad concepts.
Then it switched the grouping so that you used one button to select black faces and good concepts, and the other button to select white faces and bad concepts.
And apparently it randomized the order, so that some people got the white face/good concept and black face/bad concept button combo first, and others got the black/good and white/bad combo first.
I assume it was trying to evaluate if you had a harder time using the same finger for both white and good, or for black and good, or white and bad, or black and bad.
I really don’t think it can be anywhere near correct, all things considered. But it didn’t ask you to group faces into good or bad based on color. In this sense, you do seem to have misunderstood the thing.
Well, good.
Worthless, stupid test, though.
So does the divide between Hispanics and Anglos, between Asians and anybody else… I’ll give you two quotes I got in the US:
(A Nigerian immigrant couple): “Why do we have to say we’re African-American to apply for work? If I was African-American I wouldn’t be applying for McDonalds! I got a law degree!”
(A Moroccan): “People who tell me I’m not African make me want to do something very, very nasty involving bullets and their faces.”
The test is geared not just towards “Americans and Canadians”, but towards “white Americans and Canadians of no Hispanic descent whose foreparents immigrated at least 3 generations ago”
I didn’t get that far into it. I went through the first iteration, grouping words with “Good” or “Bad” and guessed as to what would happen next. Yep, I was right. Disgusted that the test was so simplistic and reductionist, I closed the window.
Excalibre I don’t find actual discussion of racism to be offensive. What I do find offensive is a test that looks to make some fairly ham-handed use of psycholinguistic manipulation and limited responses to force people into giving: 1) A more “racist” response than they would if unprompted or unprimed, and 2) A binary good-bad response to questions about something that has a lot more variation and room for ambiguity than allowed in their test design.
I see no discussion or exploring here. Frankly, it looks like something that was designed by first year college students doing a project for Psych 101, and I wasn’t willing to waste my time on them. You guys, on the other hand, are worth at least a couple of posts to make my thoughts clear.
While I’d say that’s actually accurate, I’m **very **skeptical of the methods used to determine it. :dubious:
I really don’t trust the way this is worked out. Just for kicks I did the age test.
Now, I was quicker on that quiz than the first one and made exactly the same amount of errors (1). I made sure that my right/wrong old/young responses were entered at a regular pacing, so speed of response should not have been a factor on either occasion. (I decided to keep the pace consistent and take my chances on accuracy for both the old/young and black/white tests.)
But after entering information on the ‘voluntary but not important’ survey, I came out as ‘moderately’ biased as opposed to ‘little to no automatic preference’.
Conclusion: I think the results are rigged to include data from the non-compulsory survey. I deliberately filled in the voluntary survey in a manner that would indicate significant bias, even though I’m positive that my test results *on their own *should have drawn very close to pure neutrality.
Now, I know that that more tests would be a good idea before drawing a conclusion, but I just can’t get enthused to do that - it’s late, I have work in the morning, and regardless, they’re just not the kind of quizzes that interest me.
Perhaps someone else would like to sit through more tests, but for me - in the absence of other proofs - it seems that the tests are rigged. Not only the ‘left side/right side’ bit to confound people who can’t switch gears abruptly for categorisation, but also by taking data that is supposed to be outside the quiz and utilising it as part of the assessment process.
Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between Light Skin and Dark Skin
I’m very sceptical of the results of this test. I did the skin tone test as I’m from South Africa and we do not recognise the African American/ European American concept. As much as I try not to be biased I live in a country where most of my life we’ve been trained to be racist. I’m probable less racist than many of my friends but I certainly DO have a bias towards white people (although I do have black friends). I think it has a lot to do with your skill (or lack of) in pressing the buttons correctly.
Good point! I do very well on keyboard typing/data entry type tests (when I’m tested I’m always at least 100wpm and 99% accuracy), and I didn’t make any errors in my test and I’m pretty sure my speed was always fairly consistent. However, the test said I was slightly biased against blacks.
In my voluntary survey at the beginning, there was a hypothetical question about affirmative action (Paraphrased - If there were two equally qualified candidates, one white and one black, and the white one had significantly more experience in that field, would I be justified in hiring the black applicant? I said no.)
All things being equal, I would/could hire either applicant. But in their hypothetical things clearly weren’t equal, the white applicant had much more experience. Moving towards hiring black applicants is very good but, IMHO, not at the expense of other more qualified applicants.
Not wanting to get into a debate about affirmative action and hijack this thread, but I’m pretty sure that the survey must have taken my response to this question into account when doing the test. Otherwise why ask the question? Shouldn’t my key-hitting ability and black/white good/bad subconscious associations be the only thing that matters?