Humans have had to deal with climate change in the past. Empires and civilizations rise and fall. The sun also rises over North Korea, Nigeria and Aleppo Syria. Every day. Parents in Aleppo do indeed need to sit the children down and have a serious talk about things.
Jump off a building? No. No need for that in order to realize and adapt to the reality of life in this universe.
The United States was not always here, nor will it always be here. Nothing too drastic is going to happen soon, but it would be naive to think it never will.
Then they’ve got nothing to offer that I could use. Their mentality is not the one that gives us great movements for progress since they can’t countenance failures and casualties in losing a battle or a campaign of battles along the way.
Although, I worry for those who feel personally terrorized and their well being.
Call me naive but I don’t think it’ll impact climate change much. China is already the world leader in alternative energy investment. Western Europe puts a lot of money into it too.
The US is just one of many countries that invests. Plus states and cities may step up to fill the leadership void left by the federal government. That is what happened under Bush. The states and cities tried to step up.
As for health care, our system was on the brink of collapse anyway. Obama care was mostly unaffordable anyway. people had insurance but still can’t see a doctor.
There are my big fears
Trump starting a war or og forbid using nukes.
Trump causing a recession or a depression
Trump irreversibly destroying the reputation of America and its people who elected him
Twenty million people losing their insurance
For perspective, red, hydrocarbon producing Texas leads the US in wind power. American people are embracing renewable energy. The Tesla Model 3 sold out long before the first car was built, and surely all of those customers weren’t Liberals. I see solar arrays popping up in the reddest of red areas.
I’m not saying Trump is going to be the champion of climate change, but individuals (or even states) can still have an influence regardless of who the President is.
To this list, I’d add alienating all our allies and leaving the US as an isolationist pariah - but I was trying to cheer Leaper up.
Trump will not succeed in doing anything he says he will, without the practically unanimous consent of all the Republicans in Congress, and Trump is not at all in the Republican mainstream. Better heads will prevail, and better heads (a few of them) can even be found in Congress.
I’ve seen things zig and zag from liberal to conservative quite a bit over my life. Odd thing is the liberal zigs are always bigger/further than the conservative zags so what we have is an overall win. In other words, I’m not happy but my hand isn’t anywhere near the panic button yet.
It’s all a matter of perspective. When the numbers are this close half the population is going to feel bad. All in all only about 25% of the US population voted for Clinton and 25% voted for Trump. Less than that voted in the primaries and put those two on the ballot to begin with.
Look forward to the mid-term Congressional elections, the pendulum has been swinging pretty steadily from left to right and back again for decades now.
I just wanted to parse this, to make sure I’ve got it. 2 steps forward, one step back. The net gain is one step forward. Is that the idea? Leaper just give people some time to process this. People are already starting to wake up from the shock and begin to give thought to what we do next. Protests were a public expression of that, but hopefully that will translate into more useful political action as time marches on.
All is not lost. Dems can be obstructionists too. There is a mid-term in 2 years. We can put a lot of pressure on our representatives in the meantime.
Folks just need to wail and gnash their teeth a bit. Ignore them and move on. Or, you know, join us for a wake, then ignore us and move on.
We managed through George W. Bush, so we’ll survive. I’ll probably be OK (though I might be hurt when the stock market tanks). But I’m concerned about the many people who won’t be. I have friends who could only get medical coverage under Obamacare; they’re going to be hit hard.
I think in four years you’ll see a lot of buyer’s remorse.
I’m optimistic too. Oh, not at what we’re currently dealing with, but just to take one issue like apathetic voters who stayed home this cycle, you can bet your sweet bippy that won’t happen next go 'round. And I believe republicans turnout will remain about the same. So, we’ve got to wade through the muck to galvanize the party. Long term, I feel that’ll be worth more than anything that’s happening at the moment.
Leaper, I hope you’re doing better today. I am. Do what I did and get off the internet for a day. I got myself involved in offline things (not involving political discussions) and it helped quite a lot.
I don’t think so. These aren’t buyers; they’re borrowers who will take your car, drive it into the ditch, then blame you because the airbag spilled their beer.
