Firearm Violence in the US: 1 person dead every 11 minutes

Maybe the violence is fostered by a constant diet of TV shows and video games where the guy with the biggest and best weapons win.

Back in 2017 a 64 year old man fired over a thousand rounds from a balcony in Las Vegas, killing 60 people and wounding 413. Of course he would have done just as much damage with a hammer, knife or car. :roll_eyes:

Nobody has made that claim.

Nobody, other than this guy here:

Damn :ninja:t5:!

At 25 cents a round that would be $250 worth of ammunition. I think it cost more but lets go with that. How much does it cost to fill up a gas tank and how far could the hotel shooter drive in Las Vegas. He could have spent hours driving from location to location. What’s the MPG (Murder per Gallon) figure associated with that scenario? I think 100 MPG is within reason and a vehicle can travel for hours on a tank of gas.

You talked of a generality vs a specific event. I have stated that there are all manner of ways to kill people. You chose to focus on a single item to compare to guns. The driveway incident involved 2 people and they were easily murdered with a variety of objects.

If you want to eliminate all murders by guns then you are left with all murders by other means.

If you’re goal is to lower the murder rate then you have to address the behavior.

Before I post to a thread, I read it out loud to myself. If, after reading it, I find myself saying “What the fuck was that?”, I erase it and start over.

Well, you know, just today a man attacked a group of toddlers and parents in a park in France. He was armed with a knife. 4 kids and an adult were wounded, but none were killed.

I would hypothesize that, had he had a gun rather than a knife, the carnage would have been much, much worse. Perhaps even a murder might have been committed.

It’s probably that. I know that Canada, UK, Europe, Korea, and Japan don’t play any video games or watch any violent movies. In fact, it’s well known that there are almost no gamers in Japan or Korea.

Wait, stop! I think I might be wrong about that!

We can only thank the gods that he didn’t have a car!

If the guns used violently had actually been hammers, would the proper method of stopping violent hammering be with another hammer, because “The way to stop a bad guy with a hammer is with a good guy with a hammer”?

If the person wanted a body count then he could drive through a parade of people and kill 6 which was also a real event.

There’s a trial in my area of a women who deliberately did a u-turn on a highway and killed 3 people in a head-on collision.

Now the solution could be to make knives illegal or some kind of car related solution but we’re still left with the intent to kill. If that isn’t addressed then no amount of policy will change an infinite choice of methodology to commit murder.

killing 60 people and wounding 413

Maybe you could get law enforcement to try your suggestion.

Then I’ll ask: why are firearms used in the vast majority of homicides? A knife is easier to buy than a gun.

Are you suggesting it can’t be done using a car? Something that’s mobile and can continuously move the scene of crime from place to place? What if someone drove from school bus stop to school bus stop?

I’m suggesting that your counter example “If the person wanted a body count then he could drive through a parade of people and kill 6 which was also a real event.” falls woefully short.

I’m pretty sure most cars will stop running well before they reach 473 separate impacts.