Firing sick new employees

Here’s the scenario; an employee has recently been hired (within the last month or so, and certainly within any probationary periods in your area), and the company finds out that the employee has a serious illness which will affect their performance of duties which wasn’t mentioned during the hiring process. Does the company fire the employee? Does the company keep the employee on and make allowances for their illness?

The company would be allowed to fire the employee within the probationary period for any reason or no reason; “it just isn’t working out” is a valid reason to terminate employment during the probationary period (which is why there are probationary periods to start with). Does this change if the reason for firing is not being able to due duties due to illness? I would like to think that companies wouldn’t just fire new employees because they’re sick, but businesses aren’t charities, either - employees are paid wages for performing duties.

Thoughts on this?

I wonder about probationary periods being used to fire people who should be covered under the ADA. IANAL but I don’t think you can do that technically. You may, of course, be able to lie more effectively during the probationary period - but I would think if the employee can show that the real reason was the illness you’d have a problem.

http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/cguide.htm#anchor62335

The answer depends on a two things. Is the illness recognized under the ADA; and can the company provide accommodation without undue hardship? If the answer to those two questions is yes; the employee can not be legally fired for their illness. The existence of a probationary period is irrelevant. You probably can get away with firing the employee, but it’s still against the law (assuming your company qualifies under the ADA).

A friend of mine in Pittsburgh was working in a hospital (records or reception something or other to do with the paperwork side of the business). She was in a probationary period. She was informed that she would be fired if she missed more than n number of days for any reason, whatsoever during this period. She had a couple of sick days, then came down with, IIRC, conjunctivitis. She was actually at work when it started getting noticable, and she was sent to the ER to get it checked out. For the obvious reasons, she was sent home and told that she would not be allowed to come back to work unti lshe was cleared. This brought her above n days off. She was fired.

Now, I will be the first to admit that there might have been personality issues that colored the judgement of the supervisor who fired her. (I.e. the supervisor might have gone to bat for my friend had my friend been easier to get along with.) However, she was fired for being sick too often during the probabtionary period.

OK, well, you’re in Canada, so all the facts I have as a disability specialist are pretty irrelevant to you, I guess.

Here in the US, it really depends on how the company “found out” the person has an illness which would prohibit them from performing the functions of the job. Did the employee disclose the illness? As somewhat else mentioned, is it one that is covered by the Americans with Disabilities Act? If so, and provided the company is larger than 50 employees, that employer is obligated to at least try to find a way to accommodate the disability.

Now, that doesn’t mean the person can’t be fired for other reasons. While the ADA was enacted to protect individuals with disabilities, the fact it, it more often works in favor of businesses. Also, the employer is in no way obligated to tolerate behavior or performance that they wouldn’t tolerate in an individual without an employee. For example, JustAnotherGeek’s friend wasn’t fired for having conjunctivitis per se, but for absenteeism. An employee who has a mental illness and discloses this to his or her employer (essential for being protected under the ADA) has some level of protection and can request an accommodation. They cannot, however, behave in ways that go against the company’s general policies and expect not to get fired.

All too often, I had clients come to me and say, “My previous employer discriminated against me because I have a mental illness.” Then more of the story would come out and the situation would be something like they had called in sick 4 days in a row, for 3 weeks running, and hadn’t mentioned the fact that it was related to their disability, so of course they got fired. As you said, businesses are not charities, and they can only survive if they are getting what they need to get from their employees.

IANAL, but straight from The Alberta Human Rights Commision

Since the disability in question seems to be preventing the worker from fulfilling a bona fide occupational requirement, he/she probably isn’t facing discrimination and has no case for wrongful termination.

…assuming the “illness” in question isn’t pregnancy. :stuck_out_tongue:

(Bolding mine.)

Don’t most employers describe the physical requirements of the job to applicants? Did the applicant accept the job knowing they wouldn’t be able to handle it?

While I realize that the OP is in Canada, probationary or introductory periods are absolutely pointless and meaningless in the US. Employment-at-will is in effect at all times, in all stages of employment, regardless of how long the employment relationship has lasted.

Companies are very much discouraged from having probationary periods because it weakens employment-at-will by inferring that once an employee passes the probationary period, they have some sort of guarantee of employment.

The other law that would be relevant here if the situation were in the US is the Family Medical Leave Act (FMLA). Regarding new hires, here are the terms “Has been employed by the employer for at least 12 months, and (2) Has been employed for at least 1,250 hours of service during the 12-month period immediately preceding the commencement of the leave.” Thus, after 12 months the employee is entitled to FMLA leave for a serious health condition (a lesser standard than a disability) without being fired. But during the first twelve months this protection isn’t in effect. There are also requirements for the employer to be covered under the FMLA, so this doesn’t apply at every US employer.

Sorry - I realized that sentence was a little ambiguous. In the scenario I described, the physical illness wasn’t disclosed at the interview, not the duties.

That’s interesting, tentaclebeast. My scenario is hypothetical; we do have an issue like this at work, but I won’t discuss particulars here to protect privacy issues. I’m also not involved in making any of these decisions; it just struck me as a particularly grey area and worthy of some discussion.

I think it’s dishonest not to disclose a serious illness before accepting a job, if the illness prevents you from doing the job.

But people gotta work. They need the medical benefits, for one thing. And maybe the employee thought they’d be able to handle it.

Tough situation.

On every employment application I’ve seen (and I’ve seen a bunch in the past year) there is a questions that asks in some way shape or form

“Is there anything that will prevent you from carrying out the duties of this job (with reasonable accomodation if necessary)?”

If the employee answers “No” knowing about the illness, that’s lying on the application, which is grounds for dismissal by itself."

On the other hand, I had a co-worker who found out she was pregnant after she accepted the job but before she actually started work. That was handled under ADA/FMLA. But the employer’s health insurance wouldn’t cover her pregnancy.