First gay "first kiss" in US Navy happens; world doesn't end

Bingo. Very simple to explain if you’re not uncomfortable with the notion. Sometimes grown ups fall in love. Sometimes they fall in love with someone of the same sex. No problem.

And awww at the story.

Mine for longer. Really, not at all a big deal.

We both have our own perspectives, but I’m going to disagree with this. Most men think two hot lesbians are cool. The most prejudice I get is from straight women, who either find what I do disgusting or think I’m going to jump on them. And then there’s the men whose advances I reject, because that makes me a man hating dyke.

My son’s at the age where he thinks kissing is gross. If it’s two girls or two guys, it’s “grosser” to him. That’s his natural inclination towards things. But he also doesn’t believe in being mean to anyone. So for him, it’s not “that person is bad”, but more like, “ewwwwwwwww, weird!”

He also know about the birds and the bees, so I think it’s normal.

Telling him that sometimes two boys want to get married was not a big deal, however.

I think that doesn’t make any difference which is more or less palatable in the question of equality in THIS issue of who gets to kiss first and that if luck of the draw says lesbians got to go first, good for them. Lesbians problem isn’t the image of promiscuity, but they fight the problem that they exist for the entertainment of men (comment 5), or that they are serious, dour, aging hippies. It may not be the same problems of acceptance, but combined with the overall issues women have of being considered - while young - as existing for the entertainment of men and then aging into nags - their issues are merely different.

Why in god’s name would you even have to bring sex into the equation at all? You don’t provide details of heterosexual coitus every time kids have a question about love and relationships in general, (at least, I didn’t. If you do, that’s a little creepy, quite frankly), why would you in this circumstance?

I think Blackberry was being sarcastic, poking a bit of fun at Buchanan. That’s how I took it, anyhow.

Buchanan’s response reminds me of the (minor) kerfuffle when Cerrie Burnell, who was born without part of her right arm, joined CBeebies, the BBC’s television channel for under-7s.

Yes, they wanted her fired because their kids asked them awkward questions. Funny how some people deal with their discomfort by hurting other people.

The usernames were close enough at quick glance that I thought the post was by Buchanan. Hence the “nm” in my post! Happily I realized it quickly.

I can’t believe that almost no one of the 10-15 responders doesn’t agree that this situation can force a conversation about an important topic before a parent would otherwise want to broach it based on a child’s readiness…and as a result, prompt parents to prefer not to have such gay public displays.

Why not show some restraint, hug, and save the kiss for when they are alone, so that families on the dock who happen to have “1950s” values aren’t put into this uncomfortable position?

I’m not ready to have a conversation with my child about why some people have different color skin than us. Therefore I would prefer that all non-whites stay in their own separate neighbourhoods so that my child won’t see them.

I mean, that’s a perfectly polite request, right? Nothing wrong with that, is there? My right not to have to answer awkward questions from my child outweighs the rights of others not to be discriminated against, right?

Right?

You’re right! Unfortunately a lot of people do make things about sex if it involved homosexuals when they would never do the same with heterosexuals.

Should my biracial child and I also refrain from appearing in public together so some bigot doesn’t have to explain that to their child before they’re ready? Or maybe we could just pretend I’m her babysitter or something, and save the shameful mother-daughter stuff for when we’re alone?

Because the right to kiss your significant other or spouse trumps the right of people to have their 1950s beliefs protected. The fact that no one here agrees with you on this should alert you to that fact.

I do like to step back a minute an acknowledge that the fact that the issue is no longer “can men and women even serve in the military together?” It wasn’t so long ago that the fact a women (gay or straight) could even have a chance at winning the “kiss lottery” would have been unthinkable, because women in active duty service alongside men was considered radical.

Excellent point!

My sister’s white and her husband, my brother in law, is black. Should they avoid kissing each other in public for fear of the many people who find interracial relationships uncomfortable, and who don’t want to broach the subject with their children?

It’s a kiss. Little kids will frequently kiss friends. If you’re not mature enough yet to have such a discussion with your young child, just say they’re very happy to see their special friend.

Frankly, I would worry much more about having to explain to children when they ask questions about war, soldiers, and whether Mommy or Daddy or Uncle or Auntie might not come back someday, and will Uncle have to shoot people, and so on.

You do have a point. Sexist as it may be, if thisis the face of open LGBTQ identity in the military, I think the opposition is going to abate REAL soon.

Great to see this. When I was in, before DADT was repealed, I used to openly tell my soldiers that I thought gay marriage should be legalized and that I did not agree with DADT, though i reiterated that it was the law and we needed to make sure to follow it. I got into some debates, but all were pretty cordial. I’m sure a few of my soldiers thought I was a closeted gay man using my wife as a front, because, you know, all supporters of gay rights must be gay.

Two of my friends are a lesbian couple, and when we go to their house with my daughter, my daughter doesn’t blink an eye. She’s 3 and a half. I don’t think she’s going to be scarred for life because we have two girl friends who are partners (and would be married if it were legal in Ohio). No awkward conversations needed. Heck, she hasn’t even really noted that it’s out of the ordinary…she just knows that mom and dad are together, and a few of our other friends are married boy girl, and some of our friends are together girl-girl.

Gyrate- my kid watches CBeebies all the time.

We’ve already had that “tricky” conversation about Cerrie.

“Mummy, I have eyebrows, and you have eyebrows, and daddy has eyebrows, everybody has eyebrows!”
“That’s right sweetie”
" I have hands, and you have hands, and daddy has hands, everybody has hands. Except Cerrie. Cerrie only has one hand mummy. She has pretty yellow hair. I like Cerrie".

I’m looking forward to the same type of non-event when discussing that some girls like girls and some girls like boys, and some boys like girls, and some boys like boys.

I think the Naval officers look very much in love.