"Riyadh: Tired of playing second fiddle to men in Saudi Arabia, five women decided that if you can’t beat them, join them.
Al Watan newspaper said the five women underwent sex change surgery abroad over the past 12 months after they developed a “psychological complex” due to male domination…"
“…but those who undergo sex change operations are never arrested.”
My comments: The article doesn’t exactly make it clear if they mean the five women are FTM or MTF. I think it’s referring to FTM, what do you think?
If they’re FTM, the journalists should be calling them “men.” And who came up with this inane phrase: “psychological complex”?
So in sexist Saudi Arabia, an Arabic newspaper painted female-to-male TGIs in less than flattering terms and failed to use the preferred modality of expression - in short, evidenced the cultural behaviour that caused the TGIs to seek SRS in the first place? Camel-spits-on-man (*) story. :rolleyes:
(*Arabic equivalent of “dog bites man”, naturally.)
“playing second fiddle to men … if you can’t beat them, join them.”
The journalist who wrote this obviously doesn’t have a clue about GID. They didn’t know what they were talking about, so they just made up something as if they figured no one would know the difference. :rolleyes:
I doubt that these women had GID. According to all the news articles I can find on these women, the reason these women changed was not because they identified as men but because they felt they were being too oppressed as women and wanted the social freedoms that came with being a man. For them, giving up their femaleness was worth the freedom they gained.
It wouldn’t be the first time non-GID people got sex changes. In Iran, homosexuality is punished by death, so some homosexuals chose to get sex changes in order to survive. I’ve even heard reports about homosexuals being forcibly sex changed.
Here is the BBC article about the 5 sisters (5 other women apparently) where the doctor says that they were intersexed, not transsexual. However, that seems suspicious to me - 5 intersexed births in one family and all of them identify as male despite being placed as women? Stranger things have happened.
About a year or so ago I read an article about gender reassignment surgey becoming accepted in Iran. The case in the article was a man becoming a woman.
Don’t that just beat all?
(I couldn’t think of a better way to end the post than that… sorry)
It can be Guin. Alan Turning is thought by some to be the father of computers. He committed suicide after being forced to take female hormones as punishment for his homosexuality. His story is incredibly sad to me, not only because of what he suffered and how he did, but because so much intellect was lost to bigotry.
But there are some people who undergo HRT and SRS who aren’t suffering from GID and some of them seem surprisingly mentally stable and well adjusted afterwards. I know a transwomen who identifies as HSTS - ie, she’s really a gay man who is uncomfortable with her homosexuality and is transitioning because she feels more comfortable having sex with men as a woman than as a man. In her case, however, she made a choice to do so which suggests that maybe she really is trans or has a fluid gender identity. I’m sure there are gay men who would prefer death to being turned into a woman just as there are lesbian who would kill themselves rather than face the reverse.
That’s likely to be a polite fiction on the part of the doctor. I recently read the text of the Sunni fatwa that approves of SRS. Turns out the Sunni version restricts this approval for only the intersexed. Bad news–but: It allows for a loophole, a legal fiction (Islamic jurists excel at these). It said if there is a “hidden” intersexed body part, then SRS can be used to make it “manifest.” Well, that would work for these folks: since the hypothalamus is sexually dimorphic, if someone has a male brain in a female body, go ahead and make the rest match.
But yeah, in general to give SRS or hormone alteration to someone without GID, against their will, is an atrocious violation of medical ethics and human rights.
As for an HSTS case who says they’re not trans but transitions so they can be hetero? Dear, you’re saying you want to be a straight woman. I’d call that trans sure enough, honey. Do not underestimate the power of the denial that trans people subject themselves to. It can be a real reality-warper.