Fix M. Night's "Signs"

This movie is pretty much where M. Night started going downhill. A lot of people have a problem with the “you gotta have faith!” message that Gibson’s wife’s character had delivered, but the biggest problem is the idiotic, ridiculous “Water is poison!” plot point.

The rest of the movie really worked for me. The suspense was building really well, the widespread paranoia was right on target, and the family’s final night was poignant. But then Joaquin reached for that bat and… it became a farce.

So, priority #1 is fix the water bullshit. Once we do that, we can address the “dying wife stays alive long enough the predict the future just vaguely enough to not make any sense” deus ex somnium aspect.

It’s simple: the aliens aren’t invading, they’re engaging in a coming-of-age ritual for their young males that involves landing on a world where water (which is deadly to them) is plentiful and attempting to kill as many adult male humans as possible without using any technology or protective gear.

How do you communicate that to the audience?

The problem with removing the “water is poison” part, is that the plot is about the family surviving the invasion overnight. The aliens need to have lost/be losing in the morning. So you get rid of the water part, than it’s just going to be something like disease or “they just all left.”

I think what hurt the movie is that it was marketed as an “alien invasion” movie atall, when it’s more of a story about personal faith, and heaven vs. hell, with alien memes thrown in as metaphor in the same sense that what we see as signs of alien abduction today were thought of as signs of demonic visitation in centuries past.

The aliens aren’t aliens, and they aren’t invading - they’ve always been there.

Al right! Very well thought!

So the crop circles could be connected with demonic symbols, pentagrams and whatever, and the water wouldn’t just work by itself, but require Mel Gibson to first recover his faith and then bless it to make it holy water.

How about if, instead of being allergic to water, they are allergic to being shot, stabbed, and/or blown up by explosives? So, the aliens invade, all the armies of the world do the obvious thing, which is to kill the bastards, and presto, invasion over.

I think if one were to ‘fix’ Signs, one shouldn’t change anything about the film, but rather, just rethink its interpretation – view it as a somewhat dark satire about humanity’s belief in its own specialness. Think about it: whenever aliens attack, they are portrayed as technologically superior in every conceivable way, yet ultimately, the ‘human factor’ drives them away: their computers turn out to have their anti-virus subscription elapsed, or they failed themselves to get inoculated, or some other contrivance allows the otherwise utterly outmatched humans to emerge victorious. This doesn’t limit to alien invasions – other stories where humans are faced with existential threats are essentially cast from the same mold, think Armageddon or similar.

These are essentially feel good stories: no matter what horrors the universe throws at us (which of course just stand for the perennial fear of the unknown), we’ll pull through, because humans are special. Even if the odds are slim (in a way, especially if they are), human specialness means we’ll pull through, we’ll band together to find our true strength, etc. This is a belief about us we need to get reinforced once in a while in order to go on, so to speak, in order to not get overwhelmed by the far more ordinary troubles of everyday life: if we can get our shit together, we can make it even through alien invasions, so what’s a puny financial crisis to us?

Often, such stories feature a combination of unwavering faith (in oneself, in the possibility of victory, in humanity, in god) in the face of near-certain defeat, combined with some apparently random, chance external element – ‘luck favours the bold’, ‘god helps those that help themselves’, etc. The danger put upon humanity is in fact only a test of this faith; if it is found steady, help will come, in some way.

The purpose this serves is clear: half of defeat is admitting being defeated, so holding on against all odds may be a desirable quality, and such stories reinforce this.

The thing is, however, that viewed from a more objective vantage point, all of these stories are fairly ridiculous. Humanity would have been wiped out in Independence Day, the aliens in War of the Worlds would have worn gas masks, Bruce Willis and his ragtag band of loveable misfits would have burned in Earth’s atmosphere as the meteor enters it, etc. In reality, humans aren’t special; we’re a feeble mass of organic matter clinging to the outer shell of a small rock hurling through empty, hostile space. Lovecraft knew that, which is why his horror is so effective.

Signs exposes this. Its message of ‘faith in the face of overwhelming opposition’ is so ham-handed, and its method of salvation so ridiculous, that we feel cheated out of what we expected, which is the reinforcement of our belief in our own specialness. Rather than seeing a hero, a champion of humanity, rise up against all odds to lead humanity to victory, we see a deluded fool, and the salvation of mankind occurring through blind chance (and the invaders’ idiocy). Which is, of course, exactly what we saw in all those other movies – but there, due to them following accepted conceits of plausibility, we were able to tell ourselves a different story: that in the end, humanity will always triumph, and that moreover, that triumph will be well-deserved.

Signs tells a different story: what we think is our belief in our own qualities, in our own capacities and virtues, is really just a belief in everybody else’s ineptitude, idiocy, and impotence. We’re giants – but only if we’re in the company of midgets.

I guess I’ll have to see this movie.

Fix it?

Can’t be done. It’s too much of a mess. Sorry.

This isn’t any big, metaphorical reinterpretation, so it’ll seem a bit out of place in this thread so far. Really simple…they should only show the alien once. I’m referring to the TV news broadcast of the kids’s birthday, where the alien appears for just a fraction of a second.

After this, it should never be seen again. The unseen is almost always scarier.

Warning: I heart M. Night Shyamalan.

Fix it? There was nothing to fix! It wasn’t a movie about aliens and there wasn’t supposed to be a big surprise twist at the end, it was a movie about faith vs. coincidence. I think the only thing that could have made the movie better might have been to add a scene to the very end where after Mel Gibson has reestablished his faith and become a minister again showing something indicating that he was right the first time and that all of these things were coincidences, like his wife and son at the doctor when he was very young and the doctor explaining to the wife that the inhaler for his asthma was a placebo because he doesn’t actually have asthma, it is all in his head or something. But then that would have been a big “twist” and I think that M. Night was trying to step away from that kind of thing. Also he is apparently a hugely religious man and wouldn’t make a movie with that kind of ending anyway.

I think the biggest problem that M. Night has is that The Sixth Sense was such a huge hit and had the big twist in the end that everyone sort of expected him to continue on with that same pattern, so when an otherwise fine movie with regular plot points and an interesting story to tell doesn’t make the audience gasp in surprise they feel cheated because they were expecting something else.

No one’s argued against that point. The argument is that “water is poison!” is a terrible, terrible plot resolution, and ruins the more meaningful moments in the movie, which you’ve latched onto.

This is clearly what the movie is about. Anyone who is bothered by the bit about the water lacks imagination. It doesn’t matter.

The movie has nothing to do with alien invasions. It’s all about loss of faith. It’s a religious parable. Even I, as an atheist, could see that, and enjoy it for what it was.

It turns out that they’re more like cats and water just annoys them. Whenever they get splashed by water they’re psychologically compelled to stop whatever they’re doing and lick it off then BAM they get hit by a baseball bat.

Or the aliens win.

See, I never really had a big problem with the “water is poison” thing, because we never learn why the aliens are invading. Maybe it’s a mission of complete desperation, a last ditch effort of a dying world to harvest the food source/materials/unobtainium they need to survive and colonize a new planet. If an alien race were desperate enough, I could see them invading a place covered with a substance toxic to them.

There are other parts of the movie I take issue with (I refuse to believe that “swing away” was anything but a coincidence) but overall, I kinda like it. It’s one of M Nights better efforts, for sure. And now I’m getting into a Signs debate on the Internet, which never goes well.

We could have someone else cover the George Michael song “Faith” and do a tie in!

This is a great point and one I never considered.

And concerning Half Man Half Wit’s take on it, well, there are plenty of flicks out there in the ether that show humanity not having a field day when doom is upon them.

I’ve written before that this is my fanwank for Signs. But I don’t think it needs to be explicitly confirmed, because a big part of the movie’s appeal (to me) is that fact that the Hess family has no freaking idea what is going on. I think it would be an mistake to change that.

Honestly, even as an atheist I love, love this movie, so I cannot think of any major element I’d want changed. The closest I can come would be to change the filming of the climactic scene to make it clearer that we’re sharing Graham’s distorted perceptions of time, not events as they actually occurred.

But not even donning a rain coat? I mean, even if water instantly dissolves you, it’s trivial to shield against, using materials common in the universe that any spacefaring race should have access to (I mean, if you can’t shield yourself against water, how’d you shield yourself against the vacuum? – Then again, maybe the aliens are strange anaerobic beings that thrive in vacuum, and hence, need no shielding there…)

Well, there are plenty of comedies, too; doesn’t mean there are no tragedies. Of course, my (not entirely serious) attempt at reinterpreting Signs isn’t built on a universal trope, but still, it exists, and is, I think, common enough (and as the link to TVtropes shows, I’m not the only one who noticed it).