Flat Earthers

Do flat earthers believe that the ocean and atmosphere pour off the edge…like that Kansas album cover? If so, from whence are they replenished?

Also, where does gravity come from?

Actually, now that I think about it, why not just tell him to request a window seat next time he flies in a plane. You can’t see all the kingdoms of the world from 30,000 ft.

Because the airlines are in on the conspiracy and the windows are just video monitors. Or whatever.

Basically, if you read that interview linked above, the flat earthers work like this:

1/ they aren’t smart enough to do measurements etc to work it out from a combination of their own reasoning and their own sensory inputs

2/ they don’t trust anyone else’s accounts of their own sensory inputs, at all, insofar as they would deny a flat earth.

There is nothing you can do.

Sorry. I didn’t mean to be an irritant.

I don’t think that’s really my place. He’s my husband’s father, not mine.

This is explained nicely by combining the turtle with general relativity. The flat Earth is accelerated by a force to the bottom applied by the turtle resulting in an acceleration of 9.8 m/s[sup]2[/sup]. (I leave it as an exercise to the Flat Earthers as to why we are not exceeding the speed of light by now :wink: )

Good for him! Remember, there is nothing to sphere but sphere itself. :smiley:

Not really a problem for them. Because most of them see the knowable world as being enclosed by Antarctica, the oceans are landlocked. As for the atmosphere, what’s beyond the ice wall is either unknowable or some form of infinite flat plane, made of rock or water. There’s just no edge for anything to fall off of.
If they do think of the universe outside the ice wall as finite, then they see the whole thing, including the atmosphere, as enclosed in a solid heavenly dome. Thus a boundary, but no precipice.

It’s a very consistent feature of zetetic astronomy that its proponents “don’t believe in gravity”. Of course, what they more accurately mean is that they reject Newtonian gravitation. And Sir Isaac is naturally up there with Copernicus as one of the evil cabal who have misled mankind.
I’m not clear on how they then explain stuff falling to the ground. If, in fact, they bother. Possibly some pseudo-Aristotolian notion of heavy things finding their natural place.

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Sentence fragments neither.

Parody, gotta be. I read a could of the links and was shaking my head at the stupidity, but then I started laughing because it’s so goddamn ridiculous.

I don’t know about Indian hinduism but Balinese Hinduism does indeed have a “World Turtle.”

I’m pretty sure you don’t want to be asking that, as there is no 100% scientifically definitive answer to that. Doesn’t help the argument much.
To the flat earther’s or more appropriately the “word of the bible/god it is true” crowd. It seems to me the church wields plenty of money/power why not commission a modern day Columbus/Magellen/Marco Polo to go to the ice wall. And what of circumnavigation? I can assume they say they just sailed in a circle around the ocean.

I haven’t read their website, but I did live in the Antelope Valley from the mid-'70s to the mid-'80s. At the time, before people started moving up for cheap houses and commuting to L.A., there were basically four types of people who lived there: Those who built airplanes, Air Force, farmers, and the people who worked in stores to sell things to the airplane builders, military personnel, and farmers. Many of the airplane-builders were blue collar ‘God-and Country’ types. The farmers also seemed to be G&C too. Athe A.V. is where I first saw the bumper sticker ‘God said it, I believe it, and that settles it.’ I don’t think it’s beyond the realm of possibility that there were some people who really did believe the Earth is flat.

Today, on another message board, there is one person who claims to believe that every word in the Bible is literal truth. When questioned whether the Sun goes round the Earth, or the Earth goes round the Sun, he refused to answer. Judging by some of his other posts, I would say that circumstantial evidence may indicate he is a Flat Earther. He’s certainly a Young Earth Creationist (YEC).

Not having read the Flat Earth Society’s website, I can’t say if it’s parody or not. But it’s plausible that if it is a parody now, it the Society didn’t start out that way.

Really? :smiley:

Could be worse. They could have chosen to believe in the time cube.