Flight 93 on A&E.

Anyone see Flight 93 on A&E last night? What did you think?

I think it could have been a much better movie with a decent script. Everything just seemed so fake. I know most of what happened inside the plane is speculation, but it all just seemed pretty hokey in this movie.

I did like the Verizon operator who was on with Todd Beamer, though. She seemed believable. I got something in my eye when her supervisor told her to release the call.

I wanna Bump this. I have not scene it, but I would enjoy hearing what people thought of it, especially the “OMG! Mark Bingham is teh ghey!” part and how it was handled.

“seen it.” :smack:

Do the passengers force the plane down in the movie? I seem to remember both that story and flight 93 having been shot down?

No, Flight 93 was not shot down. The cockpit voice recordings indicate that the hijackers agreed to crash the plane. From Answers.com:

they left it ambiguous, they do show scenes of the passengers breaching the cockpit door and a struggle for the aircraft controls, then they cut to a POV shot of a farmer in front of his barn, he watches as the aircraft screams overhead, in inverted flight, heading towards the ground, the farmer loses sight of the aircraft behind his barn, camera switches to a wide shot of the barn, a black “mushroom-ish” cloud in the immediate distance is seen rising from the trees…

next cut is the crater in the field, people looking for debris. as the credits roll, you see a time lapse video of the crater with burnt trees in the background, then the area covered in snow, spring comes and the crater is less noticable, summer comes and the crater is covered in grass, burned trees have regrown…

I didn’t realize there was a pregnant woman on the flight. The flight attendent on the other flight, the one who cried, “We’re flying very low. We’re flying way too low” that was documented audiotape recordings of her conversations with the folks on the ground.

The idea of this movie gave me the shivers. Not in a good way. It necessarily involves way too much speculation, to the point that I’d have to call it a ‘fictionalized account.’ And that fictionalized account tells the story of people whose families are probably still grieving. You know, there’s just got to be some guy who sat, just for the sake of illustration, in row 10 who doesn’t happened to be a character in this fictionalized account. Maybe he is still a hero to his family. Maybe he did do something heroic. I don’t like the thought of the writers choosing whose story gets told. Better to stick to the facts.

Reading that quote from Answers.com, I just suddenly got really angry at those guys.

This hasn’t happened before.

Fuckers.

(sorry)

-FrL-

The movie made the hijackers look like scared little boys–nervous, wide eyed, and sweating–not cold focused terrorists on a mission. Even knowing what they did, it was difficult to feel any sort of rage against the four of them, they were such caricatures. The only two that were remotely interesting enough to dislike were the one who took over the controls (the scene of him in his room practicing with the cardboard mockup was pretty eerie) and the other older one who spent a lot of time in the cockpit and looked the most in control (and even then, all I could really think of was “What else have I seen him in??”).

It wasn’t a bad movie, it just looked like it was thrown together to beat a deadline.

In an account of the event, as found in a “comic-book artists tribute to” comic, many Joe Smoes were seen as co-saviors, right along next to the famous ones.

I think that’s why Bingham’s infant nieces/nephews at his parents’ house were so prominent in the initial scenes there - to “soften the blow,” as it were.

I have absolutely no idea what you mean by this. Are you talking about a literal comic book? Is this a similie?

Yes. It was one of these, but I can not remeber which one.

No.

In otherwords, you were wishing the movie portrayed a number of everymen as heroes, in addition to the know ones. I was discussing an apearence in the media of exactly that happening.

No. I wasn’t. I was stating that I’m more comfortable with a factual account of such a recent tragedy, not a storybook. With respect, Scott, those comics strike me as trite.

Well, I am sorry you feel that way. I could not have known that you felt that way, judging from your first post here, so don’t take offense. I am also sorry you feel that way about stories you have not seen. The majority of such stories were pictures, with words, describing the artist’s reactions to 9-11. Personally, I almost cried when I read the flight 93 story.

Not on the topic of the TV movie in question, but thanks,Scott, for posting the links to the 9-11 “comics”. I hadn’t seen them until now, and did not find those I viewed as trite at all. I think they are quite moving, and portray the unsung heroes of that day in an intense, vivid way, but not at all cartoonish. I suppose this could bring up well-done stories done in a medium normally viewed as trivial (comic book art), vs a well-funded one that can be quite flat and one dimensional (films). All depends on the creative, thoughtful minds behind the medium.

Thanks again, I’m going to seek these out.

I’m not offended, Scott. You just misunderstood me by a wide margin, and I was trying to be more clear.

I only watched it intermitently. I couldn’t watch the whole thing. Not that I thought it was bad, it was just a bit emotional for me.

I did see the part of the operator and the final charge/crash. I thought that was well done. The time lapse of nature reclaiming the crater sounds nice too.

(sigh)

The part where the young woman was talking to her mother by cellphone on the plane and the mother said ‘I’ve got my arms around you, I’m giving you a hug…’ made me cry. I’ve never cried at a movie before, but I was watching with my mother and it was very emotional.