Florida child murder - Words almost fail me

No.

Make confidential assessments every year or 2, until they reach 21.

Stop the problems early, with early intervention!

Yeah, maybe early intervention can prevent social retards from developing into 40-something emotionally crippled friendless virgins who still live with their parents and only interact with people over the internet. I’m all in favor of it.

I notice you express no such incomprehension WRT one’s mother-in-law. :wink:

I’m as against the death penalty as you’re gonna get, but I’d make an exception in this case…what?

You have more faith in the powers of psychiartry than I do, Bosda. Psych testing, and evaluation is far more a haphazard thing than most people would want to admit. For all my disagreements with AHunter3, I’m with him there.

Whatever the intent of such testing, the effect I fear would be to ostracize far more children than it would ever help.

So, you “assess” that the kid is likely to become a serial killer. What then?

It’s not beyond mine. See, sometimes when estranged parents fight over a child, she becomes a piece of property, not an individual. In order to do something like this, you first have to dehumanize the victim. His anger at his ex helped him do that. Mix in all the cultural messages we get about male privilege and the fact that we don’t teach ANYONE (much less men) how to cope constructively with inner turmoil and feelings of rage, and this is the natural consequence.

Am I the only person who sees the root causes of this behaviour all around me?

I’m not even going to argue this with you because it’s a fucking RETARDED idea.

The only thing this would achive is the isolation of children.

That really made my day.

Yea, because they’re a real menace to society. I say give them a medal, at least they aren’t breeding.

Turn it over to the Precrime Unit. What else is there to do?

Nuke them from orbit, it is the only way to be sure.

I hate it when life gets all Dick-y.

WC Fields had the answer. When a kid is born put them in a big cylinder and feed them through a hole. When they are 12 , plug up the hole.

I’m not getting you here kfl. First you say that sometimes estranged parents fight over a child as a piece of property. That’s cool, I have no argument with the notion at all. I’ve seen it happen myself, from both gender aspects.

But then you get into the murky area of inherent male privilege and how killing your own child is the inevitable outcome of poor socialisation.

Big jump there. One that does not follow and rings alarm bells with me!!

First, in my experience MOST people learn how to ‘cope constructively with inner turmoil and feelings’ from an early age, male and female alike. However, some men are lacking in such areas, as are some women…regardless of which, neither are likely to kill their own child as a consequence. Such acts are reserved for the extreme minority, both male AND female.

IOW, it’s not a ‘natural consequence’ by any stretch of the sociological imagination.

:rolleyes:

It’s not JUST the poor socialization, it’s everything all mixed together that makes a cocktail of incoherent rage which leads to poor decision making and manifests in acts of misogyny.

Maybe I have heard more stories of fathers who murder their estranged wives and children. There was one in B.C. who locked his children in the house and burned it to the ground - I’ll never forget that one. Maybe I just pay closer attention and I see more of these cases than you do, which leads me to see it as a bigger problem, a systemic problem.

It’s not a bloody ‘systemic’ problem…the problem is with the individual males AND females who are psychotic enough to murder their children as an act of revenge against their ex-spouse.

Tell me, for all the separations and divorces that occur in the US (or indeed the west generally) how many of them result in dead kids? What’s the percentage?

When you come back with the figures, THEN you might persuade me that it is a ‘systemic’ problem. Until then, leave your Intro Feminisim 101 back in IMHO where it belongs.

:rolleyes:

Totally agreed. There have been a number of reports of women killing the children too. Susan Smith comes to mind. In any event, we’re talking about a very small number of psychotic individuals. Far too few to make any kind of extrapolation about society in general.

Susan Smith did it for her current boyfriend, not to punish the bio-dad.

PS, kambuckta, this is the Pit. So fuck you sideways with a festering tampon.

Now that’s not very nice. Do I detect a whiff of inner turmoil and rage?

:smiley: