I know you mention two wheeled conveyances, but as someone who rides both motorcycles and the non-powered versions, the hate to power two wheelers is basically non-existent. The hatred to bicyclist is very real. I cycle a lot and I’ve never, ever experienced anything remotely like that riding a motorcycle.
People are afraid of motorcyclists, no one is afraid of cyclists.
I’m not so sure about that.
Oh PLEASE! Wearing a fricking helmet is in no way to be compared to taking a toxic substance injection. WTF.
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What are you referring to?
I suspect it’s a response to the OP:
If so, the aforementioned “toxic substances” would be vaccines (IHHO).
Yeah, I’m amazed anyone thinks riding a bike with a dog running alongside is a good idea (and I see it being done quite often). It doesn’t matter how well-behaved the dog is - it could easily startle at something and instantly go under the wheels of the bike, likely causing serious injury to both animal and rider (even if the latter is wearing protective gear).
I guess he thought ‘walking speed’ would preclude this, but actually I’ve done an accidental cartwheel on a bike at walking speed just by grabbing the front brake too hard (new bike with much better brakes than my old one) - getting tangled with a dog or its lead could have a similar effect. Luckily for me, in my case it was on soft ground and I think I took the main impact across my shoulders, so I was completely unharmed. You live and learn - until you don’t. I always wear a helmet on my bike.
Same here. I fought to change Pennsylvania’s helmet law, and we managed to get it changed. I’d never ride a motorcycle without a helmet, but I appreciate being able to be the one to decide.
Similarly, I helped a friend overturn a law that forced him to not allow smoking in his bar. We got the law overturned. Two days later he decided to make his bat no-smoking.
How do you get a bat to quit smoking?
How do you get a bat to start smoking?
Heh. His bar. And it remains no smoking to this day.
Afraid? We were taking about hating, not being afraid. I think I missed something…
Assholish car drivers who delight in scaring cyclists wouldn’t dare to mess with motorcyclist.
One might conclude from this is that they don’t hate motorcyclists, but it could be that they are just afraid to let their hate flag fly.
Ah, gotcha! It’s also a lot easier to mess with a cyclist that is going 15MPH versus trying to mess with a motorcycle that can outperform your lifted, coal-rolling, bumper nut festooned, four wheeled security blanket.
There’s also the fact that a motorcycle keeps up with traffic, while with a bicycle, you follow behind them at 10-15mph until it becomes safe to pass them.
I don’t hate either, but I do sometimes get annoyed by the latter.
Bicyclists of all stripes get a lot of hate, even kids on bikes get hassled. I’ve been run off the road and had objects thrown at me just for riding my bike.
Motorcyclists get it too, people crowd your lane, creep up on your bumper at stop lights and knock over your motorcycle when parked.
Several years ago a deranged woman in the area strung up wire across the dirt road! in anticipation of snagging a dirt biker. She did, and fucked him up. She had some piss poor excuse of mental illness triggered by loud noises. NTL she went to prison.
Not sure where you live, but I’ve never experienced that in the NW US and I ride a lot (well, this year not as much). On my bicycles while riding on the road? Often. I’ve had road motorcycles for 35 years and never had one knocked over or have any sort of thing I would say was car aggression because I was on a motorcycle. Maybe I’ve been lucky? I try to not ride like a douche so maybe that is part of it. Also, I don’t have loud motorcycles which I could see inducing rage. I hate loud motorcycles (and Subarus, pickups, etc)
Couple of years ago, a police chief in Hawaii backed into a parked Harley and claimed that neither he nor his passenger were aware that the bike was there and they didn’t recall hitting anything.
Earlier that same year, a FedEx driver pulled a hit & run on a parked Suzuki in Toronto:
To the person who said made the reference to “tHe UnVaxEd” when commenting on this helmet thread.
I have no problem with people riding without a helmet but it’s soooo uncomfortable. I only did it once when testing a bike and it was ridiculously loud. 15 minutes on the bike and I was getting a headache. It was the road noise and not the bike.