Accept whatever you want. I’ve never fully understood the left’s antipathy to Israel, so if you’ve got a better explanation, open a new thread and have at it.
I’ll just stick with “Sam Stone is a mendacious bigoted shitbag” then.
Maybe because the left doesn’t have an antipathy to Israel, and so you are trying to understand something that doesn’t exist. That’s part of the problem with just making shit up like you do.
First of all, the vast majority of people don’t contribute to any political parties at all, so you’re looking at a very small and not unbiased sampling of teachers.
Second, that figure may well include contributions made by unions. It’s no secret that most unions tend leftwards, but that doesn’t necessarily imply anything about their members.
Third of all, that’s a sampling of teachers, not of administrators, who are demographically very different in many other ways. There’s no particular reason to suspect that school administrators would resemble teachers politically, either.
Wasn’t it a school principal? Aren’t they generally promoted from the ranks of teachers?
I have no idea of the political affiliation of this person. I was just pointing out that the default assumption that this was a white supremicist or some other type of far-right person isn’t really warranted. Might be, might not. My money would be on not.
Management/Admins do come from the teacher ranks but the are largely from a more conservative subset of the teachers.
Reading his comment I felt the same. In the larger context your (and my initial) response really isn’t warranted.
He is saying that the principal is an anti-Semite scumbag and that educators are overwhelmingly leaning left. You are to draw your own conclusions from that. I disagree with the point he is making, but his remark is not invalid.
“Liberals are anti-semites because they hate how Jews are so good with money.”
It might have far more to do with Israel’s hardline “best defense is a good offense” indiscriminate use of weapons against Palestinian civilian populations.
But you did tangentially suggest this might be a case of left-wing anti-semitism, did you not? Is it fair to suggest you’ve internalized an anti-left bias and are operating from that modality? It’s okay if you are. It would not surprise anyone and if I’m honest, my initial reaction was that this was some sort of ignorant racist admin of indeterminate political stripe. She may well be exactly that. But my money is on either bureaucratic incompetence or stupidity. It might be that she’s trying to make a political statement in protest of the school board laws she feels she is asked to enforce. Whatever the case, I’ve learned to be skeptical of reporting in these kinds of outrage pieces, so we may never know key details and can only speculate.
Where’s that “like” button.
That is the only thing I get from his posts-well said.
What I want to know is whether @Sam_Stone thinks that Jews have a capitalist nature.
And for that matter, at this point, whether @CaptMurdock does.
What exactly the fuck does this have to do with Jews in America?
Me too. I am so fucking discouraged.
The point is that you just revealed that you believe a bigoted stereotype about Jewish people. Claiming that “Jewish people are more capitalist” is just the “greedy Jew trope” used for centuries to attack them. In no way are Jewish people more into money than anyone else. They just took banking jobs because Christians at the time wouldn’t.
You know there are tons of left-leaning Jewish on this board, so obviously they aren’t more capitalist. That right there is exactly the type of thing that conservatives say about Jewish people but liberals and progressives don’t.
The only real place for antisemitism in current liberal/progressive thought is accidentally going too far in supporting Palestine. You don’t have the US left generally supporting the old bigotry.
So, please, correct this bit of misunderstanding you have of Jewish people. They are not “more capitalist” any more than black people are “more criminal.”
Well you see, if you disagree with some of Israel’s policies you’re anti-Semitic, even if you’re Jewish, but if you are a Nazi marching in Charlottesville you’re not.
No. The antisemites on the left use the Israel/Palestinian conflict as the lens through which to legitimatize their hatred. They’re the one who want to quiz you on your thoughts about the middle east as soon as they learn that you’re Jewish to find out if you’re a “good one” or a “bad one.” They’re concerned about dual loyalty. They conflate “things that Israel does” with “things that Israeli Jews do” with “things that American Jews do” with “things that all Jews do and approve of.” Some of them are hesitant about allowing Jews to openly participate in liberal causes, and some of them are very vocal about it. They are not ‘accidental’ bigots.
Antisemitism is older than America and older than western civilization. It transcends modern concepts like the left/right political spectrum.
And while there are certainly far, far fewer of them on the American left than the right, there are enough that you notice them if you are Jewish and hang out in liberal circles.
I wouldn’t currently expect Holocaust deniers to be on the left, though. It doesn’t have the same flavor as left-wing antisemitism, to me at least.
Maybe you didn’t make it down to this part:
This will be accomplished when the Lord will give Israel His Spirit (when the Jewish people accept Jesus Christ.). At that time, Israel will be God’s people and He will be their God.
In other words, God will love us just as soon as we stop being Jewish.
That’s a pretty critical item, because without it it would make no sense for Jesus to come about in Israel.
Not mentioned there, but something my evangelical friend believes in and which I’ve seen elsewhere is the belief that the Rapture can’t happen until the Temple is rebuilt. That’s why evangelicals support Israel. Then it happens and we all get sent to hell. Nice.
And someone should have told all those Christians forcing conversion on Jews throughout history about the “don’t need salvation” part.
I wasn’t talking about MY beliefs, but taking a stab at why the left hates Israel. I’m the one defending them here.
I was actually thinking about the state of Israel, which the progresdive left seems to hate. I get that they don’t like the Palestinian situation, but there are a whole lot of displaced peoples around the world that the left cares much less about. The Kurds, for example. Or the Uyghers in China. Somehow the Jews in Israel are the focus, Perhaps you could explain it to me. All I meant was that Israel is a Capitalist state. Another historical issue is that Israel was attacked by the left constantly during the cold war, because they were armed to the teeth while the left was pushing for disarmament.
I honestly don’t get it. No, I don’t think Jews are somehow naturally drawn to Capitalism or anything like that. I was talking about the actual situation, in which the only capitalist, pluralistic democracy in the Middle East constantly gets singled out for condemnation by the left around the world, while great horrors to other marginalized populations are carried out around the world with nary a mention.
Where’s the BDS movement with regard to China? Why aren’t Nike, Disney, the NBA and other organizations that benefit from slave labor in China being boycotted by progressives? Why isn’t the oppression of the Kurds in Syria and Turkey a left-wing cause? Why don’t you care about the expulsion of Palestinians from Arab countries?
I can’t sort it out. So how about you tell me? Why is Israel so much worse than the rest?