I am very curious to see how you made this distinction.
Using the deterrent logic (which is what you seem to be implying is the benefit), we could also post their heads on pikes after the execution.
And preempt broadcast channels to show the execution.
Sure I’m engaging in slippery-slope, but your acceptance that dying ‘badly’ can be an acceptable evil seems arbitrary. (What is ‘badly,’ by the way? Painfully? In a way that leaves a mess for Mike Rowe to clean up?)
Why do you draw the line on *this *side of torture?
On the other hand, why do you draw the line on* the other side* of ‘dying badly’?
Oh, and back on topic - has anybody mentioned burning at the stake? It’s crowd-friendly, and there’s not much cleanup.
Serial killing sociopaths DO NOT FEEL GUILT! They often keep trophies of their kills and revisit their dumpsites. Ted Bundy used to revisit his corpses, wash their hair, put makeup on them, and then jerk off in their mouths. He also became a jailhouse lawyer to gain access to photos of his crime scenes so he could jerk off to them.
Stop assuming sociopaths have your moral standards.
I oppose the death penalty, which is why I support this bozo. Killings shouldn’t be sanitized or turned into pseudo-medical procedures; killings are ugly, bloody and barbaric, and we shouldn’t delude ourselves into thinking they’re something else. So yeah, bring back the firing squads; in fact, bring back the guy with the hood and the axe.
You know who tried making killing people more modern and efficient? The Nazis.
But non-sociopath serial killers do feel guilt. Stop typing in all caps.
Yeah, that’d be part of it.
Intuitively, and fairly illogically, I’ll admit.
Well obviously. As said, I’m not in favor of the death penalty. But I feel that if we cross that line, we could gain added utility by scaring the shit out of people.
As bup said, it looks like you’re thinking of the DP as a deterrent. But I think that history has borne out that it is not. In fact I think it’s been shown (though I don’t have a cite) that the more bloody and public executions are, the more violent a society becomes. I believe that’s the reason why executions are no longer public.
Why would a sports team want to buy a state?
I still think executions should be conducted by using them as organ donors. I think people will be a lot less tolerant of endless appeals and stays when a convicted murderer’s organs could save half a dozen lives.
The firing squad is actually quick and painless. Or so I’ve heard.
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Oh, that’s good. And if you just need something like tendons, or eyes, where it won’t kill the prisoner, you can keep those other organs like a heart or lungs ‘on the hoof’ until needed.
Really? The dead guys told you that? How considerate. Find out where Blackbeard hid his gold for me while you’re at it.
Fuck, you’re really stupid.
-Joe
I’m sure that there are ways to find out without asking the decedents. After all, how do we know that lethal injection is more painless than hanging?
We do?
It stands to reason. Since people who have been shot and not died report that it’s so painless…
Somewhat related to an upthread post, IMO, the only guaranteed way to make sure an execution is painless is absolute, instantaneous destruction of the brain. Think, the aforementioned several thousand pound weight dropped on the head.
“Oh hell no. Nuthin’ to it. A 30.06 shell to the gut is like angel kisses on a sweet Spring morning.”
Since it’s currently considered the most humane method, someone somewhere must have postulated that it was so. I have no idea what thought process led them to that conclusion, but I’d bet that they were wearing lab coats and being all sciency at the time.
This…
I love the Florida legislature. I’m glad they are part of the U.S.
Going out on a limb here, I suspect Drake’s religion is of a fundamentalist Christianity kinda thing. I wonder if he considered crucifixion?
A death fantasy that comes up a couple times in *Sandman *involves “head crushed by an elephant’s foot while at the point of orgasm” (the guy orgasming, not the elephant. One hopes.)
Sounds about right to me, although the logistics involved might be a problem. For one thing, there’d be a literal elephant in the room while one’s… busy. Very distracting, I should think.