That’s not the experiment. Whether you wanted to believe it or not, you knew you were listening for 'coons" before you heard the tape.
THAT creates the bias.
What about it? It presumably would preclude him from possessing a firearm if he was convicted on the LEO charge, but would not preclude the state from issuing him a permit.
I think my methodology was generally sound - no pun intended. It really should have been double-blind, with presenters playing the clips to listeners where both the experimenter and the listener did not know what they were hearing.
And of course my sampling was atrocious.
But the basic principle – play it for two groups, tell one group what they are expected to hear and another group nothing at all – is exactly how to approach this question.
With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who eventually shot and killed the unarmed 17-year-old, then Trayvon climbed on top of George Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times, leaving him bloody and battered, authorities have revealed to the Orlando Sentinel.
That is the account Zimmerman gave police, and much of it has been corroborated by witnesses, authorities say.
Zimmerman has not spoken publicly about what happened, but that night, Feb. 26, and in later meetings he described and re-enacted for police what he says happened.
In his version of events, he had turned around and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from behind, the two exchanged words then Trayvon punched him in the nose, sending him to the ground, and began beating him.
Zimmerman told police he shot the teenager in self-defense.
Did you give them the context (less the race of the participants, of course)?
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/327330-george-zimmerrman-911-call-history.html
A documented history of calling in reports on suspicious black males would make it plausible that there was racial motivations though.
OK.
FSA § 790.23 prohibits any person from owning or possessing any firearm if that person has been convicted of a felony in Florida.
And FSA § 790.06, the “License to carry concealed weapon or firearm,” statute, explicitly says:
When asked for his version of what happened, Trayvon Martin said nothing. Very suspicious.
So I guess George Zimmerman must be telling the truth then. No reason why anybody facing serious felony charges would make stuff up.
It’s not like we have any reason to think Zimmerman imagines things. Well, except for that one time he saw a guy walking down the street and imagined he was a criminal.
I still contend that it is different. Yes, I was listening for “coons,” but I didn’t know the context. I didn’t know that he used the f word, for example. I didn’t know if he screamed it out the window of his car or said it straight out to the 911 operator.
When I first heard it, I could plainly hear, with a tone of derision and exasperation in his voice, him mutter under his breath, “these fucking coons.” To me it’s as plain as day with no distortion in the tape, and frankly no other logical words that could have been used. When the tape is slowed, you can clearly hear the hard “c” at the beginning of the word so as to preclude him from saying “goons”.
He was charged but not convicted of the felony, thus it would not be disqualifying.
Can you explain why other people can’t hear it, especially if they haven’t been told it’s there?
Ah! So he approached him from behind while talking on his cell phone? Did he use the cell phone to batter him? Did the conversation (“Why are you following me?/What are you doing here?”) occur while Martin was slamming his head into the ground? Did he do it one handed, while the other held the phone? Or did he make the call while battering him? Must have been, texting would have been out of the question.
Did he shoot Martin while the boy was on top of him? How is it that Martin didn’t notice that he was reaching for a gun? Are there powder burns on Martins clothing and body, from such a close discharge of a hand gun. Otherwise, he must have stopped, got up, stepped away, and then got shot. Kind of blows self-defense out of the water, wouldn’t it?
Keep diggin’, Terr. When you hear them speaking Chinese, I’ll drop you down another shovel.
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Read the article if you want to find out more.
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Wow. You must have great fantasy life.
- They don’t know the word “coon” and how it relates to blacks.
- They are good and decent people who would never in their wildest dreams think of using such a word, and because they’re so milquetoasty, they can’t pick it out.
- They are strong ideologues who viscerally need the gun wielding twat to be the one in the right, because guns equal Jesus pancakes. So they hear what they want to hear.
- They are shitty at hearing stuff.
Maybe they are biased 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGuctYqCDvo
I hear it and it fits in with his,
“These <bleep>, they always get away,”
Statement earlier in the call, along with his 911 call history.
Whoa, slow up there, big horse! You just insisted on a “double-blind” approach, but now you gesture vaguely in the direction of “other people” without telling us who these “other people” are, and without proving that they are innocent of any pre-knowledge.
Playing a little fast and loose, aren’t we, Counselor?
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You pretty much posted everything in the article directly connected to the event. There’ isn’t anything more to read.
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Eat your heart out.
So, outside of evading the question, you have nothing further in response?
There’s plenty more in the article. Apparently you decided not to read it.
As for your questions - yes, I am sure the forensic results of how Martin was shot, whether there are powder burns on the clothes etc. will come out in the trial, if it occurs. The police definitely are not releasing those results to the public now. They never do, in any cases. So your fantasies are based on nothing.
Terr,
So how did Zimmerman get a clear, deadly shot at a guy who was on top if him?
Crane
Point blank?