Throw me in with those who say “There were allegations”.
It is Deadzone who alleged.
Oh, sure, it may not be true, and nobody else is alleging it, but things don’t have to be true to be allegedly true.
And so, to sum up:
Dio is wrong.
Dio was allowed to hijack that topic over something silly.
This topic is being hijacked by the same silliness.
Yes, I know I just contributed to the silliness.
As for the original reason for this topic, I think everyone should just be more wary of how they edit quotes, especially when taking something out (although that issue has seemed to take a backseat in this thread over the definition of “alleged”).
I was hoping that would happen. The thing is, your quote is a fair one. I said that. It’s clear by convention and from the lack of context that you’re quoting a part of my statement, presumably to quibble with me about that specific part of the statement. You’re not being unfair to me unless, based on the selective quote, you ascribe a conclusion to me that wasn’t actually my conclusion.
In that case, though, you’d have to be actively misrepresenting me, which you weren’t. And neither was the post that started all of this.
The allegation that Sterger said these things is a separate from what they are saying she alleged. They are not equivalent. Deadspin saying A said B is not equivalent to Deadspin saying B.
I figured your post was a set up. It was too easy.
I also figured you wouldn’t report my SDMB rules infraction, and believe me, given my record and popularity with a good number of mods, there was a risk.
But lets be clear. An allegation of an allegation is not what the OP intended to represent with his post. Clearly the quotee takes issue with the edited post and the compromised inference that it represents.
The fact that you do not take issue with my false inference of your post in no way legitimizes my misrepresentation of your statement.
That is not analogous to my point. I am not denying that Deadspin ALLEGES that Sterger made allegations. That does not mean that Deadspin itself is making those allegations, nor is it proof that Sterger did.
Hey, I agree with that. That is not what the argument is about however. If I refer to an incident, I would hope we all know exactly which incident I’m refering to.
Well, not having ever seen Deadspin, all I have to go on is Dio’s allegation that Deadspin alleges that Sterger made allegations. For all I know Dio may have misread.
I’m with **Dio **on this one. If X says someone made allegations about Y, that in no way justifies the statement that someone made allegations about Y. It only justifies the statement that X made allegations about someone.
Then I have either misunderstood or I have stated my position poorly.
Upon review : It appears that** Ellis Dee** is arguing that Deadspin’s allegations about someone are allegations about Favre. I contend that they are not, and it appears that **Dio **does as well.