When I moved to California the DMV just punched a hole in my old North Carolina license, and told me it was no longer valid for driving, but I could still use it as ID until I received my regular CA license (they gave me a temporary paper license for the driving part in the interim). I don’t know how New York does it, but if she still has her old CA license I bet it’s still acceptable as ID.
When I renewed and changed the address on mine in May, they didn’t do anything to my old ID. Just gave it back to me and I still have it. It wouldn’t have actually expired until June and would have been fine to use during that time.
In NY , you surrender your out of state license and they give you a temporary non-photo license on on the spot.
That’s because you already had a NY license - you didn’t exchange one from another state. You actually only had to notify NY of the address change- you didn’t need to order a new document until it expired.
As I understood it, the ticket was bought in its entirety from the airline. It consisted of a small (single engine Cessna) flight from the boondocks to near the big airport, followed by a shuttle to the airline’s terminal (and a recheck of bags). It was at this point the airline refused to accept the out of date license. TSA had no problem with it.
SHOW UP AT LEAST 4 HOURS EARLY. They run a check against the Lexis Nexis database or similar and ask questions about you/your household, and if you fail those the police have to verify who you are. (You get questions from similar databases when you request a credit report) Bring all possible forms of ID you do have - expired driver’s license in the right name, credit cards, student ID, etc. You have to wait in line, then you have to wait for the TSA to fill out the paperwork and make the call. And if they are busy you may have to wait for them to have time for this process.
Both. She was first licensed in 2015. Being under 21, she was issued a license printed in “portrait” rather than “landscape” orientation. In 2020, we got REALIDs. This time her license was printed in landscape mode. It expires next
May, but that was the one she had to surrender when she was at the DMV on thnde 5th.
That’s a good idea. I’ll ask her if the DMV has a suggestion box for her to submit that.
Thanks for that one. I’ve texted it to her.
Not so great if there’s an emergency and you have to evacuate. Especially if there’s fire and jagged metal edges all about.
In that case, you should wear a fire-retardant suit, like the ones worn by race car drivers. My point is that I don’t see the point of choosing footwear based on how they’d work in the remote case of an inflight emergency.
I’ll take the risk. I use a cane and walk very slow so I won’t be running anywhere.
Just, never tell anyone what security is like on Amtrak.
Helmets save the lives of motorcyclist, has anyone considered them for cars?!
All this expired ID talk reminds me I once tried to buy beer at a bar with an expired drivers license and they refused to serve me.
So I went back to my car, found my current ID (I had grabbed my expired one I kept in my car for emergencies by mistake) and went back to the bar and they again refused to serve me claiming they didn’t know if it was a fake ID or not.
One of those suits might get a few people wondering if you know something they don’t (a few people besides TSA).
Better slap on a few patches from STP, Fram, and Pennzoil.
It may vary from state to state, day to day, and agent to agent.
When we moved to Virginia, I got my VA license without surrendering my NC license - I think I still have it somewhere. I’m sure I have expired Virginia licenses somewhere - when we moved t to this house, I did the address change online (and accidentally renewed; back then you could renew for 5 years without going into the DMV) - and I certainly had the old one at least for a while.
This kind of mess is a good example of why it’s really good to have multiple forms of ID, if possible. Passport, school ID, work ID, or whatever. It’s not always feasible, and of course it doesn’t help you if your documentation is lost or stolen, but for the OP’s daughter’s situation, it might be useful. I wonder if my work ID (a government client, so it’s a CAC / PIV card) would do in a pinch!!
It won’t help someone with a temporary license - but NY and some other states now have an app that allows you to have a digital driver’s license/ID on your phone. It’s not just a photo, and TSA accepts it at some airports.
I like that idea. At this point in time, she’s past TSA and about to board, but she’s still got a PDX → JFK ahead of her. I’ll have her look into that tomorrow.
ETA: Why not for temporary licenses, I wonder? ISTM that would be an EXTREMELY useful feat- okay, never mind.
Thanks for all your input, guys!*
*Except that one poster. 
They know what they did.
In 2002, I lost my DL and needed to fly before I received my replacement…TSA let me through with my Sam’s Club card!