Flying without a photo ID?

Same TSA group let my wife through security with a Tiffany cake knife with a12" blade in her carry-on. She was taking it back to her home town to return it to Tiffany’s

Yeah, wear comfortable but sturdy shoes- tennis shoes, runners, walking shoes etc.

Not flip flops, not high heels.

Even it is not a huge emergency, you just have to use the slide for instance.

You might not have surrendered it but it was no longer valid and possibly illegal to possess. Are you sure one of those was not a driving license but just a state ID instead? Because I’m pretty sure you can’t have more than one state’s driver license in the US. Here is a cite from a newspaper column. Sorry it’s not more official.

Nope - it was my actual driver’s license.

This was 35 or more years ago, of course. Rules may have changed, or the person at the Virginia DMV may have just goofed.

IIRC, I had to take the eye test, but nothing else.

I love to tell the tale of when I first got licensed to drive, in Pennsylvania.

I got my “junior” license (often called “cinderella license” because driving after midnight was not permitted) shortly before I turned 17.

At 17, I was eligible to get a “provisonal senior license”, provided I had a clean record.

And at 18, I got my full senior license.

The junior, and provisional senior license, both expired at the end of the month I turned 18. So very briefly I had 3 valid Pennsylvania driving licenses (none of which had a photo, as it happens; those were adopted some years after I moved out of state).

Possibly because temporary licenses don’t usually have photos?

Incidentally, I have gone through security at an airport without photo ID before. (It’s a longer story why I didn’t have it–it was elsewhere in the airport).

They just asked me a bunch of questions that sufficiently proved to them who I was. They must have access to all sorts of data pools that allow them to “triangulate” (as it were) one’s identification.

I don’t know if I trust any of the sources that flatly say it’s illegal - I’d believe then if they said it’s illegal to have two licenses in NY or California or a specific list of states but I don’t think anyone writing a newspaper column checked all 50 states. It is illegal under Federal law to have two CDLs.

It’s twofold , I think in NY - the lack of photo might be an issue , but you have to take photos of the front and back of your license and I know for sure the back has codes which I don’t think are on the temporary license. .

I’m pretty sure that after I applied for and received a Real ID license, I had two valid driver’s licenses, at least until the regular one expires.

I’m just guessing - but if it was the same state, it may not have been technically two licenses if they both have the same ID number etc on them. Because virtually everyone who renews by mail or online will have two valid physical licenses for some amount of time.

I routinely have 2 DLs from my state of FL. Just tell their website you lost the original, pay $5, and they send you a new one. Now you have two very similar cards with your same license number and pic on them both. Easy peasy.

The gotcha is the new one says “Reissued mm/dd/yyyy” for whatever date they ran it off. And most significantly, the magic 2D barcode on the back of the two licenses is utterly different.

Any cop who scans the back of the old license will get back a message “DL reported lost on date [whatever]. Not now valid.” Conversely the new one will scan just fine; the Big Computer in the Sky knows that one is still good. Until it too is replaced or renewed or …

So don’t get confused and hand the wrong one to Officer Friendly. That won’t end well, and especially not if you’re driving.

No, I meant that they should go ahead and issue your license electronically immediately, so you can access all the features and privileges while you’re waiting for your hard copy to arrive.

If they had the tech to do that, they would also have the tech to print your license right there on the spot.

The answer to almost all bureaucratic delay, whether corporate or governmental, is 1960s automation and no budget to improve it.

Maybe someday - but I’m actually surprised that NY is one of the first states to have this mobile license considering that my first license in 1982 ish had no photo and was on a piece of heavy paper. That’s a lot of progress for a government agency in only 40 something years.

Florida rolled out mobile ID a couple years ago. And has just shut the system down to be replaced by a new one from a different vendor. No public indication of why.

My crocs fit well and don’t flip off. They are the only shoes that are comfortable for me right now.

I won’t be damaging any evacuation slides with these either.

Welcome to Hawaii. The satellite DMV offices are convenient but only the main office has the specialized printer for the hard/laminated/holographic enhanced gold star licenses. So all you get for a renewal or lost license is a flimsy copy not good for air travel (new license takes about 6 weeks because of the backup at the main office). This state has either squandered money on useless systems the contractor ends up defaulting on or cludges along on ancient tech. Paradise in some respects - other areas, not so much.

I recently ordered a copy of my birth certificate from N.Y. State in preparation for getting a Real ID, and the turnaround time was fast - only a week or so. That’s surprisingly efficient for an agency that still calls itself “The Department of Health and Mental Hygiene”. :crazy_face:

I remember someone, on another thread, saying that one of the questions was “what’s the nearest school” - and thinking I wasn’t sure of the answer (there are 2, almost identical).

My state used to do that. Then they went with the harder-to-counterfeit sort, which is mailed a few weeks later.

I don’t think they print much of ANYTHING at the DMV any more. I’ve gotten temporary handicapped hangtags on several occasions, and each time, they issue a paper one on the spot, then te plastic one is mailed out. You wouldn’t think that would be tough to print locally, but whatever.

I have government ID cards for two different clients - one civilian, one DOD. The civilian one takes weeks or months to produce, and I have to go to specific locations to a) get the photo taken, and then b) pick up the resulting card, months later.

The DOD one: I can go to any CAC-issuing office, and walk out with the ready-to-go card an hour later. Hardest part is finding one that has appointments available, or that takes walk-ins. The two cards are, basically, identical in terms of technology.

Yeah. The difficult-to-counterfeit cards require 3 things.

  1. Secure enough storage of the blanks.
  2. The fancy printer to apply your pic and data to the blank.
  3. The governmental will and budget to do 1 and 2 in many locations for walk-up service, not just 1 location for weeks-delayed service.

For darn sure the only hard step is #3.

Sometimes it’s not exactly that it’s tough to print locally. Sometimes you want only a few people to have access to the security paper. In my state, actual DMV offices issue licenses and so do the county clerk’s offices. Issuing the permanent , secure license at the county clerk’s office ( by people who aren’t DMV employees) would mean having that paper at at least 100 locations where now it’s only needed at one. They could change it so only DMV offices issue licenses, but a lot of people will have to travel further.