You just really have no idea what’s out there, huh?
cosmosdan, Tarantino has nothing on you. Except of course, oodles of talent and a grasp of verisimilitude to real life events. And as far-fetched as he can be that’s saying something.
As for the OP, as many here have said before, initial defensive shot, justified and deserved. Thereafter, a clearly cut case of vigilantism. IOW, a murder.
I too am mystified that this case is even up for “debate.” It’s simply putrid pulp fiction to do so.
Shoot them all and let Og sort it out! Yew-haaw!
Apparently whatever is out there means you should shoot every single person, including jay walkers, just in case they rape your sisters.
Seriously it’s a pretty ill thought out point. His point seems to be “you should kill everone you have the chance because you don’t know what they might do.”
By that logic you should be shooting anyone with in range. One of them could rape your sister you know.
That’s why the law calls for reasonable force. People laying unconscious in a pool of their own blood aren’t reasonably likely to rape your sister. Anything beyond reasonable force is vigilantism, and I thought you agreed vigilantism was bad?
Shovel bullshit, Yoda does not. Not Yoda, you are.
I was talking about the really wierd things that happen in this great big world. You need to explore what’s out there.
So, going back to the OP, if the Castle Law was invoked in Texas and the “vigilantes” were found to be within the law then they weren’t really vigilantes were they?
And, no, not a folk hero nor a murderer, just a survivor.
Here’s the cite you warrant.
Feel free to visit the “cite” I just posted.
But meaningless gibberish you certainly are.
And if wishes were fishes you’d eat like a king.
Says the guy who thinks cruise missiles should be launched at government buildings in North Korea until they release two journalists. Link
An interesting take on the world you have there. A guy defending himself from a criminal can’t ensure that the criminal won’t get up and attack him, but random people who may not even know about any journalists being held captive, let alone have anything to do with it, deserve to be blown up to release them. Maybe Ersland was tired of dealing with the criminals like you’re tired of dealing with NK?
ITT: cosmodan doesn’t know what the fuck cite means. A pit thread of you complaining about people wanting a cite, and people pointing out your story is prolly bullshit isn’t a cite.
Would you tell me the part where a teenager, laying unconscious in a pool of his own blood, who could easily be shot if he moved, posed a threat?
Yes using the threat of military force against a brutal dictator and the government that supports him to free our own people is totally the same thing as murdering an unconscious teenager laying a pool of his own blood. Clearly you feel one must be an absolute pacifist to oppose any murder.
Lets say may positions are totally inconstant however. How the fuck does that change whether I’m right or or wrong in this thread?
Do you have anything better then an Ad Hominid attack?
It doesn’t. I agree with your stance on NK. Why kowtow to lunatics. I just wouldn’t do it for people who don’t understand the proper usage of a GPS. Now if they were on the correct side of the border and were abducted, then my stance would change. But if I was the US, I’d be talking to China and getting them on board at is was their border that would have been violated.
I would prefer that people don’t have to kill other people. Some people just need killing, though. People in the process of committing violent acts should expect it. And until society (ie. the cops) arrive to take control of the situation, I’m inclined to look the other way, or give a strong benefit of the doubt, for those who have to, through no fault of their own, protect themselves from the dregs of that society.
I’m sorry. I should have posted a picture of me grabbing my crotch so you’d understand sarcasm when you read it. I know exactly what a cite is and that’s why I chose " here’s the cite you warrant" and used quotes in the next reference to it. Sheesh!
you’re assuming facts you don’t know are true.
Can we keep in mind that the subject of the thread is already an incredibly unlikely event? Armed robberies happen but what are the chances the average person will be involved in a shooting with an armed criminal? Pretty dam unlikely right? However, when the category already is “shootings between armed robbers and armed civilians”, a pretty small group I’d suspect, the chances that something outrageous and otherwise highly unlikely might happen goes up considerably, wouldn’t you say?
No, Toa is going by the facts as we know them. He’s forming an opinion from the available evidence and the expert opinion of the Medical Examiner. There’s no assumption at all, other than that the ME is in fact qualified and that the security video has not been edited or tampered with in some undetectable way. Those assumptions are perfectly reasonable.
You, however, are asking us to assume that you have a friend, assume that your friend has a brother, assume that said brother worked at a HoJos, assume that a HoJos has a skylight, a locker room, 2 perps armed with fully automatic weapons, etc. etc. You are asking us to assume that your whole story is true. If you could just provide a cite, we could stop assuming and actually deal with known facts. It’s you are full of assumptions, and you want us to join you.
Sorry, but that’s not how this is gonna work. You are the one full of assumptions. When come back, bring facts.
Wishes? Huh?
Prolly? Ad hominid?
Prolly is a perfectly cromulent word.
I admit I chuckled at ad hominid, tho.
Assuming he has a friend is hard for you?
You can’t warp around that his friend has a brother?
And so on.
Boy, it’s just all too unbelievable.:rolleyes:
I can well believe that he has a friend, and that the friend might have a brother. I don’t know that those things are true, but I’m wiling to assume that they are true. I’m not expecting a cite for that part of the story. Heck, I’ll even grant that there might be a place known as HoJo’s. 
The rest is, ahem, not so likely. In fact, I doubt it so strongly, I’ll call bullshit and wait for a cite, as was requested earlier.
Still waiting… :rolleyes:
[crickets]
And the issue isn’t just that it’s “unbelievable”, the issue with his story is that it’s not supported at all by any verifiable source.