Food Fadists - STFU

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Been thinking it over… food faddists are annoying but much less so than the people who have to brag – okay, sometimes sneakbrag – about their palate or their fortitude.

You know, the ones who boast that they beg waiters to make their food as hot as possible, and then still have to douse their food with a bottle of tabasco sauce before it’s spicy enough for them? Because they are just so tough and sophisticated or something, you know.

Or the ones who KNOW what the best brand of everything is, and their experience is ruined if you dared cook with something else? I mean, there can be a quarter teaspoon of Hungarian paprika in an entire kettleful of whatever, but if you used Brand Y instead of Brand X? They’re all: <<Heavy sigh>> You know, it’s okay. But if only you’d used Brand X…

(I have an in-law who is never going to eat in this house again until my wake.)

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I saw an episode of Kitchen Nightmares where Gordan Ramsey went apeshit over the concept of “fresh frozen”.

Maybe Gordan posts here? :slight_smile:

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I carry glucose tablets. However, they are for quick treatments of low blood sugar. I don’t regard them as substitutes for meals. If a group of people decides to go to Applebee’s, for instance, do you know what’s on the menu that I can eat? Last time I checked…nothing, really. I think that there might have been some side dishes that I could eat. Now, I admit that it’s been some time since I’ve gone to that chain, but I couldn’t get so much as an unseasoned beef patty the last time I went there. T.G.I. Fridays? Even the sides usually have a ton of black pepper in them, as of a couple of years ago. Even the mashed potatoes have a lot of pepper in them.

Call me silly, but when I go out with people, and we all want to get a meal, I’d like to eat WITH them, rather than toying with a piece of bread (if the place even serves bread) and making plans to hit a corner store on the way home.

Yes, I made some mistakes when I was first diagnosed. However, my problem isn’t that I’m not carrying enough sugar, it’s that I don’t want to just eat sugar steadily as a substitute for a meal. Having my blood sugar yoyo isn’t great. And if I eat too much sugar in a day, yep, I’m gonna feel horrid the next day, even if I don’t eat the sugar all at once, so I greatly prefer to limit my sugar intake. And I’d much rather spend my sugar intake on good quality chocolate, which I enjoy much more than glucose tablets.

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Tabasco? I wouldn’t let that weak-ass slop touch my food. If it’s not Dave’s Ghost Pepper, I’m not having it.
And my steak is slightly overcooked, I said Rare, not Almost Medium Rare. Sheesh.

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You seem to have forgotten about the message I was replying to. The one that had nothing to do with what you could or could not eat when going out for dinner. The one that had nothing to do with using glucose tablets as meal substitutes.

I replied to the one where you said this:

Which contradicts what you just said:

If your friends intentionally go to places where they know you cannot eat (and that is up for discussion) then I am afraid you don’t have a diabetes, diet or allergy problem, you have a friend problem.

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yeah, i’m really not seeing where anyone said that glucose tablets were a meal substitute. and-you’re talking about spending your sugar intake on chocolate rather than glucose tablets. you…know they’re not actually candy, right?

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Huh. Ignorance fought.

It’s really much too late in life for me to have just learned that, but thanks.

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They don’t intentionally go places where I can’t find anything to eat. Hell, I might not know whether or not I can eat someplace, unless I ask a server or I’ve looked up the menu (although I can make a fair guess from some of the items). Or the recipe might have changed since my last visit. Both Church’s and KFC now put quite a bit of pepper in their crust, for instance. You’d think that just pulling off the crust would take care of this. It doesn’t, there’s still plenty of pepper in the chicken. And yeah, I do pull off the crust. Not because I’m trying to be all healthy, but because I don’t like it. I know that KFC used to put pepper in the crust, in lesser amounts, but nowadays it seems like there’s a great deal more.

Some people seem to be saying that I should carry enough glucose on me to last me through 12 hours, as if that’s the only caloric intake I can rely on. I don’t want to rely on glucose tablets, I would prefer to eat some actual food.

And yes, I know glucose tablets aren’t candy. That’s my whole point. I enjoy eating candy. My doctor is OK with me eating a small amount of candy. But the glucose tablets are something that I HAVE to eat in emergencies, as opposed to something that I want to eat. I budget my sugar intake to allow for a few bites of chocolate. Eating glucose tablets throws off my plans.

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Someone has created that chart online somewhere. I just have to find it. (there will probably be turkey porn involved. :eek: )

Ya know, I don’t think I’d EVER like to hear that statement made. Just sayin.

Snot jokes on the first page of the thread? Damn.

I did mention the turkey porn, right?

On this note, someone on SC-ETV/NPR this afternoon was talking about how using “acidic” foods “like vinegar” were good for something or other. I nearly drove off the road yelling at the radio.

Ok, you’ve gone so damn long. golf clap But you only get the one.

:smiley: If she’s feeling a little bit un-inspired, I’m sure she could check with Schrodinger’s Tibby up there. I think she’s got the basics down, or up, or re-up…

How do you feel about those little donut tires? Some of them aren’t even made of real rubber! Or bike tires? Or perhaps cart tires? You know those cute little wooden ones that are on horse-drawn carts in kitschy downtowns?

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I know that; I also know that isn’t as funny.

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So carry some chocolate bars with you.

As I said before, there are things I love that have caffeine in them, but I do without, even IF it means I might fall asleep. Seizures aren’t worth it. And yet, you seem to think it’s worth a, um, “gastric reaction”, rather than be prepared. That’s your business, but then don’t go and bitch about it.

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I think that it’s not worth trying to survive on glucose tablets. Listen up.

If I have a low blood sugar incident, and dose with the glucose tablets, my sugar will go back up and I’ll have a period of time when I’m stable. And then, in another 15-30 minutes, if I’m not able to eat something OTHER than simple carbs, my sugar is going to crash again. The glucose tablets are a VERY SHORT ORDER fix, not meant to do anything than tide me over in an emergency. They are to prevent me from fainting, they won’t keep my blood sugar at a good level for any length of time.

And carry chocolate bars? Please. I live in Texas. The high around here was 105 today, I believe. Even at home, I keep my chocolate in the fridge, so that it’s not all squishy. If I tried carrying chocolate in my purse, I would soon have a chocolate coating on everything in my purse. The chocolate would be useless, and so would everything else in my purse.

I carry glucose tablets, yes, but that doesn’t mean that I can just go without a meal when I need a meal. Glucose tablets mean that I won’t have to go to the ER.

I’m not bitching because I have to carry glucose tablets. I’m bitching because it’s sometimes damn near impossible to find something to eat at a restaurant, and because I don’t want to be a shut-in any sooner than I have to be. I enjoy getting out and socializing with people. Yeah, I know, it’s weird to think that I might like to be around people. But I do. And you know something? People who just don’t care for the taste of cilantro were allowed to bitch when everything had cilantro in it. Do you see me bitching all that much because shellfish is regarded as a treat? I just don’t order it. Fortunately for me, most places don’t put shellfish in nearly every savory dish, so I have options. Frequently, I have almost no food options in some restaurants.

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Alright, I try not to judgte people who claim allergies or other medical problems. However, Lynn, this doesn’t make sense. Fine, you can’t carry chocalate bars? There’s half a damn aisle filled with various easily-carried treats in your local supermarket, or even corner store. Many of these will not melt and have approximately the same nutritional value.

Second, yes, you’re going to have problems finding foods which meet your narrow criteria, because your one criteria excludes a huge array of dishes. That is unrelated to the issue that many people pointed out: that your stated reason is not adequate. it’s unfortunate you have a medical condition. If you were just complaining about that, no one would mind. It’s that your chain of logic doesn’t follow.

Because what I’m hearing is this:

Lynn: I hate restaurants serving food which makes me sick
SD&co: Don’t order that.

Lynn: They tend to serve it anyway.
SD&co:Fair enough. Carry something to carry you through those times.

Lynn: I carry tablets but they don’t do the job.
SD&co: So carry something else.

Lynn: The one thing I can think of is inconvenient!!!11111oneone
SD&co:

Now maybe I’ve taken away the wrong message here. OK. But that’s what you’ve communicated to me at any rate.

Likewise, I’m somewhat dubious that you just “can’t” filter what you eat. You may have slim choices at some places, but they don’t usually pepper bread dishes, and about half the soups aren’t peppery, and will often be obvious. It just seems as though you’ve adopted this “Woe is me I can do nothing at all” attitude when solutions, though as lways imperfect and requiring some modest work, do exist. And that does not much garner much sympathy.

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I make my own sauce with scotch bonnet peppers, garlic, cilantro and onions. A thing of glory. Try it (and freeze the toilet paper). :smiley:

Who are these people?

Glucose tablets are the “crashing in 10, 9, 8…” solution. But if you are going out and have no idea what the menu or accommodations are, bring a granola bar or something. It’s not like your friends are Shanghaiing you into eating out, I suppose there is some forewarning. Heck, I plan for this kind of things, and my problem is minor compared to yours.

Here’s the thing: yes, it sucks that restaurants cannot cater to each and every one of our food allergies / diets / preferences, but nothing is going to change that. We have to be in charge of what we eat. And, yes, sometimes that means either eating before going out, or eating after. Since my biggest problem with having to wait to eat is that my stomach will make noises, I can wait. You cannot; make sure to plan for that.

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Pretty much ANY candy will send my blood sugar zooming up, and then I’ll crash again. It’s not just glucose tablets, or chocolate. Any candy that is not sugar free will do this. And eating sugar free candy won’t fix a low blood sugar episode. Tablets will do the job of sending my blood sugar back up, quickly. However, they are not a substitute for eating a meal.

True, most of the bread that I encounter isn’t peppered. I’m not sure what you consider a “bread dish”, though. I would prefer to eat something more than bread at a meal. Would YOU be happy to go out with friends, and just eat bread? Most breads are made of simple carbs, which means that eating only bread is almost as bad as eating glucose tablets. As for soups, maybe it’s just my area, but most of them are pretty peppery. And while soup with my bread is more of a meal, maybe I’d like some veggies too. I guess I’m not allowed to want any meat, though.

Remember, this started because the OP thought that most people who say “I have problems eating foods X and/or Y”, for example, gluten or peanuts are drama queens. The fact is, yes, some people do have issues with these foods. And some people can eat a limited amount of certain foods. And sometimes, people don’t WANT to hear that someone really, really doesn’t want a ton of pepper on their food. Or even a little bit of pepper. When I was recovering from MRSA, I was quite weak, and could not even stand up for more than a minute or so at a time. My husband fixed me food…and “helpfully” peppered it. He just could not wrap his head around the fact that I couldn’t eat the stuff. I kept throwing the food out, in front of him. Then I’d ask for cheese. Last week, I told him AGAIN that I hate heavy sauce on my pizza. He’s known me since 1975, and I’ve always told him this. Some people just don’t listen. Some people don’t want to listen. It’s not just my husband, either.

Like the people who refuse to acknowledge that I HAVE to have meals at regular intervals.

My main problem is that since I started taking insulin, I can no longer just skip meals and go hungry, which is what I used to do. If I skip a meal, there’s a good chance that I will faint. Even if I eat my glucose tablets, I’ll faint if I don’t follow them up with something that’s not going to be processed so quickly. So sometimes, my choices are either eat food that’s going to make me miserable for a period of days, or go to the ER. This seriously restricts my traveling, for instance. If I go by plane, I have to take a chance that the shops and restaurants after the checkpoint will carry something I can eat, or take the chance that I won’t have a low blood sugar episode. If I travel by car, I generally carry some deli meats and cheeses in a cooler, along with some bread and mustard, in case the only restaurant for 50 miles subscribes to the Emeril method of sprinkling essence (which includes black and cayenne pepper) on everything, to make up for poor quality food and poor cooking.

So far, the solutions that have been offered are to carry some form of sugar. Which I do. However, that is only going to fix the emergency. It’s not even a real short term solution, because it’s not going to last for even an hour. Well, I’ve been told that I should just not eat out, too.

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Oh poo. I was hoping with all of this talk of eating frozen but uncooked fruits that maybe freezing would make them safe, that maybe when I was told decades ago to avoid fresh that meant I could eat them if they’d been frozen. Guess not. :frowning:

One thing I forgot earlier, in the interest of ignorance fought - I always thought I was allergic to an enzyme in raw fruit/veggies, not a protein. I don’t know if I was told that or what, it’s been so long. Or are enzymes proteins?

He went apeshit how? That frozen food cannot be considered fresh?

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Can I send this thread to my (soon to be Ex) SO? Mein GOTT, the ALLERGIES…I dunno how he has survived into his senior years with so many bloody fucken things out to get him! :rolleyes:

Apart from the cats, tomatoes, cheese, citrus, preservatives, penicillins, sulphates, (other) dairy and shit, he seems to come up with a new allergy every time his daughter rings and tells him how crook SHE is. And of course, if she’s been diagnosed with something weird by one of the witchdoctors, he takes it on board too!

Fuck me dead…any wonder I’m leaving. :rolleyes:

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Oral allergy syndrome is believed to be triggered by pollen, which is, as noted, denatured by cooking. It also accounts for why OAS is usually worse during hayfever season. If, for example, you’re allergic to birch trees you might well be miserable when they pollinate and cross-react with other species of plant, resulting in OAS.

In some cases, peeling the fresh fruit/vegetable will also serve to remove clinging pollen. It’s certainly yet another reason to thoroughly wash produce prior to eating it. It will not, however, guarantee no reaction.

If you live where I do during the long winter when there is essentially no pollen in the air many people find their OAS goes away, only to reappear in the spring (though some unfortunates suffer regardless). If you live in, say, Southern California there may be sufficient pollen always in circulation to make OAS a year round affliction.

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my SO’s son tried telling me that he is allergic to gluten, because his daddy told him he is. This was the night I made barley soup for dinner while I was explaining to him that he couldn’t have a nutella and graham cracker ‘sandwich’ for dessert!

What really annoys me is when food fadists preach to me about the superiority of their dietary choices. Vegans are notorious for this, as are raw food jihadis. If your body cant handle beef broth, or cooked food, it is quite obvious that you are too weak to be allowed to reproduce.

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Yay for judgemental victim blaming!

:rolleyes:

Well aren’t you special.

I’m an asthmatic with sudden life threatening attacks and you know what? Shit happens, you forget your inhaler, it happens and getting holier than thou about it solves nothing.