I think the system is too unchecked and allows people to mooch and scam.
I think people’s taxes should be looked into as well as their financial transactions before they should be given food stamps. If you spend your money on a plasma TV, a Mercedes-Benz, and a nice house and then you have no money for food, you should not be entitled to food stamps… the money that should buy your food bought leisure items instead. Same thing for drug addicts.
No, but I know someone with them who drives a Mercedes-Benz, has a giant TV, and wears very expensive jewelry. I’d bet you if she didn’t buy all of those things, she would not need food stamps.
I’ve seen women come through my register at work with expensive purses (not knock-offs, I know the difference) and food stamps.
I don’t think you know the difference between a knock off and the genuine article on designer bags. There are ways to know the difference, but I challenge you to tell me.
I don’t care what people do with their food stamps. Just make sure the kids eat, and I won’t judge you for whatever hustle you have set up to get yourself some non essentials.
I don’t agree with this, because what it comes down to is, “You buy whatever the hell you want, in luxury items, and when you cannot buy your essentials, everyone else will do it for you.” Which is what happens. How do you think food stamps are formed?
I don’t know how it works, but I know I have personally seen people with food stamps who very clearly have indulgent spending habits and are draped in luxury items that likely further hinder their ability to pay for their food.
They check your taxes, of course. That much is obvious. They also check your pay stubs and earning statements. They check the balance of your checking and savings accounts. They check child support and alimony. They check any investments. They investigate any trusts that are being held for you. They check loans, gifts and other contributions you’ve been given. They check any properties you may own. They check any other source of government assistance you may be receiving. I don’t want to belabor the point or anything. I hope you understand now that they check basically everything.
And after that, they check your expenses. Rent or mortgage and utilities. Car loans. Insurance, if you have it.
Using all this, they calculate how much assistance you need and give you as much as you’re allowed.
So I’m skeptical that you’ve seen people who have ‘indulgent’ spending habits or drape themselves in authentic luxury items.
And you know for a fact that she bought those things WHILE she was on food stamps (as opposed to buying those things while she was still earning a good income, then qualifying later for food stamps when her financial circumstances suddenly deteriorated)?
Lemme tell you about how I qualified for WIC when my twins were born. My husband had a job that paid $14,000 a year. I, before I gave birth, had a job that paid me $9000 a year. In New York City.
When I gave birth to twins my job offered me a whole $10,000 a year to keep me. This was not enough to pay for yearly transportation and child care. It was economically prudent for me to stay home with my children.
So, there we were a family of four living on $14,000 a year in New York City. I went to the local WIC office because I had two infants that needed food-- and I breast fed because titty milk was free!
I was turned down for WIC. Because $23,000 a year was too much money for a family of 4 to qualify. Forget the fact that I was no longer working. Despondent, I walked out of the WIC office-- and was stopped by the director of the public health office.
My children where high risk children. They were born under weight-- common for twins. They lived in a high risk area-- not public housing but section 8 qualified (we did not qualify for section 8. At $14,000 a year, we made too much money) and they were tiny. The director was outraged and sent me back into the office.
I do not know what strings she pulled but I walked out of that office WIC qualifed. And let me tell you-- I do not know what the women who had to depend solely on WIC did to feed their children. Me and my husband spent an extra $200 a month keeping our children well fed-- something that would have been impossible had he not had a job.
IMHO is not the forum for me to express how much your OP has upset me. Suffice it to say-- you are talking directly out of the region dominated by your gluteous maximus.
I think the poll question is a little vague. Obviously there should be requirements that have to be met before one can get food stamps, but “transactions and taxes” is a bit broad.
What kinds of transactions? For how far back?
How high should we set the hurdles? Should they be so high that we risk excluding people who really are deserving? Or should we lower them somewhat, accepting the risk that there will be cheaters (as always happens with anything in the real world) then set the penalties for those who are caught high enough to deter most.
I agree that the thought of cheaters is infuriating, but some low level of cheating is unfortunately one of the costs of trying to be a humane society that doesn’t want people to starve due to economic misfortune.
As for the Mercedes; how old was it? Maybe they bought it when they were more affluent and it’s paid off now and they need it to get to their minimum wage job. Or maybe they borrowed it from a friend or family member in order to go grocery shopping.
It’s interesting how many people know someone or have seen someone who drives a Mercedes-Benz and gets food stamps. I’ve seen and heard this story (nearly always with a Mercedes-Benz) repeatedly from many different sources and people. They must all know the same welfare cheat, I guess.
I know some people who bought a Jaguar for some crazy low amount of money, like $1100. Had some bad engine trouble they fixed, and I guess it ran great.
So even assuming they bought the Benz while on food stamps, with a little know how and elbow grease, it is possible to legitimately get a high end car on a crappy car budget.
Seriously, a poll with just 2 options on the SDMB? :rolleyes: (See, there is where the rolleyes smiley comes in handy.)
As to the alleged content of the OP, I’d have to see some evidence that food stamp recipients aren’t subjected to rigorous financial scrutiny before I can be bothered to express an opinion.
I would like to change my poll answer. The OP’s charged rhetoric got my dander up and voted ‘NO’, which is ridiculous. These government programs are needs based and as such you must show ‘need’. Of course your tax returns should be looked at.