I don’t think a touchdown counts for a first down in pro football in any circumstance.
But college football does, unless it’s a goal to go situation.
The funniest thing about this one is that, following the punt, the other team had a fourth-and-39 coming back.
Good work, zut.
Yes, in NFL football any touchdown from scrimmage counts as a first down. You can see this in the play-by-play reporting. The first downs are tracked off to the right, by rushing ®, passing §, or penalty (X). Scroll down to Tampa Bay’s offensive touchdown and notice the little R7 off to the right.
Notice also that the NFL lists “first and goal from the three” as “first and three from the three” (1-3-NYG3)–two different ways to say the same thing.
Great job! Thank you, zut!
So as of now the all-time record belongs to the Tarpon Springs Sprongers (led by “big play quaterback Achilleas Houllis”) who won their September 1, 2000 game against arch rival East Lake despite experiencing a 4th and 69.
The college record, 3rd and 57, belongs to Steve Spurrier’s 2000 Florida Gators. Predictably, the sportswriter said “even Spurrier doesn’t have a play for that.”
And as Shelbo noted, the Patriots have set a very high (low?) bar for the NFL with a 4th and 63.
Heh. Not so fast Subbing “4th” for “fourth”, I found:
Fourth and 70: New York high school playoffs.
Thanks for the link. I suppose the NFL has changed that scoring convention. It makes more sense actually.
The Fowler Falcons nose into the lead with a 4th and 70–a mark set just this October. Things were looking good for them until an 18-yard touchdown run was nullified by a holding penalty. Then four penalties in three plays and what must have been a huge sack by Whitesboro Warriors lineman Mike Babula catapulted them into the record books.
I can’t find a cite through google, but I recall a play in approximately 1989 in which the Miami Hurricanes converted a third-and-49 against Penn State. Randall Hill was the receiver, I think.