What’s the big deal about Vista? People bitched about XP when it came out. They will probably bitch about Windows 7 when it comes out and wish they had Vista back.
This should never have to be an issue. A work around in a 21st century OS? Vista is crap. Nay, Microsoft is sh!t and vista is the stench from which it eminates from.
I am willing to bet dollar’s to peso’s that 7 won’t be any better in its final release.
You want Vista. The UAC and all the new security system in the real world for a non-technical user like you means the difference between getting an trojan or virus on XP and not getting one on Vista.
SP1 fixed a lot of problems that vista had and SP2, which is now out, fixes even more. Its much snappier than the first release. I suggest you install SP2 ASAP.
I suggest you visit sites like slashdot and read postings from XPs release. The bitching about XP went through the roof and now its the beloved operating system. The complaint culture of the internet fades away with time, it seems. Funny how that works.
you have building full XP-ized vista. So do we… all that money to switch to vista, for absolutely nothing extra.
Don’t say security,…PLEASE don’t say security.
Vista was just Microsofts way to abuse their monopoly and force PC manufacturers to purchase Vista with new machines. That’s just another bully tactic.
Just got word that our entire organization is soon to switch over to Vista. I’m REALLY looking forward to that! Our shop’s changes to it’s system seem to go so seamlessly, even when changing to a decent program! (NOT!) :rolleyes:
One good sign - if our shop is finally getting around to Vista, that must mean it is just about obsolete! 
This is just the new cry of oppression from clueless computer users. And it’s always vague, never specific. Vista sucks… because… it sucks, that’s why! don’t ask questions!
If you really want a new gaming PC Quasi, then get one. Better yet, build one yourself and save a few hundred bucks. Then install Windows 7 RC on it and enjoy a great, stable, Os for free until this time next year.
Nothing? Really? Well, they have an entirely new window manager (those things ain’t easy to code), a Windows Update that’s actually somewhat easy to use, much improved searching, better wireless management, and a whole bunch of other stuff. And yes, some desperately-needed enhancements to the security model.
Granted, I don’t know why it took six years to come out with that, but Vista (at least, post-SP1) is definitely an improvement over XP, which is thoroughly antiquated. Any time people are asked what’s so godawful about Vista compared to XP, we’re inevitably treated to an inability to come up with specifics (like Quasimodem here, who has even admitted that Vista has worked just fine for him while trying to claim the exact opposite), or how “nagging” UAC is (despite such a feature being absolutely, 100% required for a sane security policy), or some gripe about the BobTech ObscureChip 9000 from 1995 not working properly. People don’t like change, which is why they don’t like Vista, and probably won’t like 7 either.
I have Vista and have had a world of problems with the networking (to an XP box, NAS, and TiVOs) and with file transfers (both to network storage as well as internal drives). I’ve tried every fix I could find on the Interwebs for both issues but to no avail*.
I downloaded Windows 7 and did a clean install of it a month ago and I must say that I’m pretty impressed with it. So much so that I’ve wiped Vista (except for a backup image) and am using Windows 7 exclusively (I’m soaking in it right now!). The networking map really MAPS a NETWORK (cool idea, huh?) and discovered all of the boxes in my home network. The transfer/delete speeds have also increased significantly.
That being said, there are a few programs and games that I’ve got to run in compatability mode, but that’s not a big deal.
Windows 7 also seems to have much better included driver support for devices than Vista did. It recognizes almost everything that I plug into it and has the drivers for it already on board.
Bottom line, if you’re somewhat computer savvy and having actual issues with Vista (not just the standard “Microsoft SUCKS!” kind), give Windows 7 a shot. If you’re just looking to upgrade because it’s the newest kid on the block, I’d wait until the official release. I’m hoping they don’t bloat the hell out of this thing between now and then, because I think then it’ll be a much better offering than Vista was.
- Standard disclaimer - I know that not everyone has had these issues with Vista and in fact Vista has most likely saved a childs life, cured cancer, rescued puppies, and/or picked the correct lottery numbers for them, so as usual, YMMV.
You may be confusing that with Office 2007 Home and Student.
Guess I don’t like change then.
Maybe it was getting used to VISTA that’s my problem, or the WINDOWS toolbar up there, which doesn’t look or do the same things XP did.
WoW works okay, as I wrote previously, but I need this OS to do more than just play games.
It also keeps asking for a “key” for me to use WORD (which is ALSO different). I have no idea what they want since this computer (IBUYPOWER) came equipped with VISTA.
Or maybe it’s just me and I’m not grasping things as well as I should.
Hell, I don’t know.
Q
The “key” they’re asking for is a key to use Office, not Vista. Many new PCs ship with Office preinstalled, but unactivated until you purchase a key. If you have an earlier, retail version of office from an older PC, and you’ve uninstalled it there, then you can uninstall the new version from your new PC and reinstall the old retail version there. Otherwise, if you don’t want to purchase a new copy of Office (and Microsoft made major GUI changes in Office 2007), then I suggest taking a look at Open Office.
Thanks,** RwS** for the link to Open Office!
It is downloading as I write this to you.
I also appreciate your instructions about the other Office programs, but I am at the stage now where “simple” is better.
I also appreciate all the feedback in this thread.
Please try to overlook my aggravations, if you can - I just have a bad day sometimes.
Y’all are all very kind and precious to me!
Bill
Why cant I? The UAC is a entire security layer and people need to get out of the habit of running as an admin 24/7.
My biggest gripe with Vista is that the OEMs have been bundling it with unstable software. I just bought a Lenovo for my brother and it was pokey until I uninstall all of Lenovo’s crapware. Half the lenovo apps just crashed for no reason. I have no need for their wireless manager because Visa comes with a better one. I put on SP2 and it works fine. Dont blame MS. Blame the OEMs.
Quasimodem, glad to be of help.
I suggest you uninstall MS Office using Control Panel (Programs->Uninstall a program), and take a look at all the other software that is installed there that you won’t use. Chances are most of it is bloatware and you’ll be better off without it.
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Thanks RwS!
Q
Be aware that Open Office is not a suitable replacement for any sort of professional work on Office which usually utilize macros and have tie ins to other applications in that kind of environment.
I suspect a lot of the problems came from early adopters who had underpowered machines and who suffered driver problems. I had a loaner laptop with Vista and half a gig of memory, and it was awful. The machine I have now with 32 bit Vista and 3 Gig of memory and a dual processor runs just fine.
Microsoft never gets anything right the first time, and usually not the second. This shouldn’t be news to anyone.
In addition to the poor driver support at the start (and the blame here is not solely Microsoft’s - I think at one point Nvidia was responsible for most vista related crashes), I think that the other main issue was mostly not early adopters, who tend to be tech savvy and own mid to high end hardware, but rather retailers and system builders who were selling very low end gear that did not meet the requirements and slapping a “vista approved” label on them.
Intel for example pressured retailers and Microsoft to allow their piece of crap GPU’s, which could not run Aero adequately, to meet the Vista ready standards. I don’t know why Microsoft caved in on that one. It spawned a whole bunch of under powered PC’s who ran the OS like crap. Coupled with driver issues it made for some terrible word of mouth, which, clearly, is still in effect, despite the resolvment of most issues with the OS.
I’d just use it for letters, faxes, resume - stuff like that, Kinthalis. It’s okay for that, right?
Thanks
Q
Oh yeah, open office will handle that just fine.
I used to use it back before I had to use Office for work. Obviously a lot of coding, templates, macros and applications were simply not compatible.