Fork Hillary 3: The Final Forking

Right, because being able to win Republican votes in the general election is so… so… what’s the word I want? Oh, yeh – insignificant.

In Firefox, open a new tab and type “about:cache” without the quotes. This will give you a page with the exact location of your personal FF cache.

Also, the default Firefox cache location on a WinXP machine will look something like this:

C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\YourProfileName\Cache

Where UserName is whatever you logged into the machine with and YourProfileName is your firefox profile. Your firefox profile might just be called ‘default’ or it might be a string of letters and numbers.

Hope this helps.

For what it’s worth, mine is 1,767 KB. It was named 53B161CAd01, but I renamed it Florida.mov and QuickTime likes it just fine.

Do you have the requisite tools to put it up on YouTube (I don’t have QuickTime, or any great desire to add it)?

Not an endorsement (yet), but a “hint” of one.

Former President of the United States, Jimmy Carter has hinted that he might cast his vote for Senator Barack Obama

Well, should there be any doubt?

So if its mathematically impossible for clinton to win the nomination, and I haven’t read about any endorsements for her lately, why is she dragging this out? Spite?

It’s not impossible for her to win. Best bet is she makes it close or picks up the popular vote. She can then lobby the superdelegates to swing the vote her way.

The nasty version is that she knows she can’t win, and is doing her best to hurt Obama so he cannot win the general. Then she can come back in four years and beat John McCain. This is known as the Tonya Harding strategy.

He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win.
What did Hillary mean by this? That there is something inherent in Obama that will make him unelectable in the general? Or that he can’t win because that will mean she will lose.

Because I would hate to think her no-fail strategy this whole time was banking on the fact that she could convince the superdelegates that a Hawaiian couldn’t possibly win the Presidency.

Another way she could get the nomination is the possibility that Obama implodes…that he does something (or has done something that hasn’t come to light yet) that is just so incredibly bad that his candidacy becomes inviable the moment it goes public.

No surprise there. Carter has had a simmering feud with the Clintons for a long time.

Does she want some cheese with that whine? That kind of tirade and whining will only land Clinton further in the dredges of peoples mind. Why whine about it like that? Obama is effectively kicking her ass, and now she pulls this shit. PUHLEEEZE!

Well, I don’t see Obama doing anything that stupid, and if there was any dirt left to dig up, I think they would have done so by now. I don’t know what HRC means by “He cannot win”. If she can’t even beat Obama right now, saying that is like endorsing McCain.

I guess it really depends on what the likelihood of her getting the nomination is. If its something that depends on random chance like Obama being seen in a house of ill-repute tomorrow, or a secret love child somewhere coming out of the shadows I think she should concede for the good of the party and in turn the nation. If she can’t do that then she doesn’t deserve to be president anyway.

3 new key endorsements for Obama :slight_smile:

This is why I will be really glad when America shakes free of the grip of the baby boomers. In my experience, that generation is the last one that is deeply obsessed with race. This is not to say that there is no racial animus in younger generations, but I think it is much less of a factor when you get past the boomers.

I think it is not a coincidence that the states which skew older, demographically, (Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida) are the ones where Obama runs into some trouble.

It is my impression that Hillary is speaking to her generation’s racial politics with her statement to Richardson. I think also that she does not fully appreciate how ready many Americans are (particularly those younger than her) to vote for a qualified black candidate. (Indeed, I think many Americans saddled with white guilt are eager to vote for a qualified black candidate, if only to convince themselves that they are not racists.)

The boomers are a huge voting demographic, so it does matter that there are so many racists among them, but I remain confident that this factor will be offset by Obama’s demonstrated success at energizing young voters, black voters, and those independents who are disaffected with the Republican Party.

Yep, bigotry of all kinds will just fade on out when the boomers croak, and we can move into the sunshine of a new tomorrow. :dubious:

Except he also had “some trouble” in California and Texas, which have a lot of them progressive-thinking young folks in addition to the racially obsessed, arthritic, Beatle-worshipping boomers.

California had a lot of early voting and a lot of the ballots were cast while Hillary still appeared to be a huge frontrunner.

Obama actually wone more delegates than Hillary in Texas, even though he has to deal with a large number of rednecks crossing over from the Republican side to tamper with the primary voting.

Race-obsession is not as much a factor with younger generations. Do you seriously disagree with that statement? And if so, do you also contend that boomers are equally racist to the generation that came before them? Or would you not agree that racism has been on a downward trend across the generations?

I’m not trying to demonize the boomers. Just stating what seems to me an obvious fact: that there is more lingering racism in that generation than in the ones that follow behind. This does not mean that all boomers are racist.

Both of those states have large Hispanic populations, which have tended to support Hillary. And even among Hispanic voters in Texas there was a generational divide, with young voters more apt to support Obama.

Besides which, Texas was a virtual tie, with Obama taking more delegates.

(Also, maybe I’m mistaken, but isn’t California skewing older these days?)

I would point out that it was the baby-boom generation that first embraced the civil rights movement and was at the vanguard in creating widespread societal acceptance of racial equality.

Yes, there are elements of the baby-boom generation that retain some to the racist attitudes that they experienced while growing up, but those people certainly don’t define that generation, nor are they a large part of it.

Hey, a generation is as a generation does. Sure, the Boomers supported civil rights in the 60’s and all, but that’s about the extent of it. They also contributed to white flight and had their kids outside of the cities because they were too scared. We are just now seeing (white) people having kids in cities again and taking some kind of civic responsibility for once in a very long time. They aren’t boomers, let me tell you. When they first started making real money in the 80’s they turned on their ideals so fast to cash in with Reagan.

The problem that most of us have with that generation is that it was the pinnacle. It is the generation that was at the top. Eventually the progress had to end, right? Not every generation can be better off than the previous indefinitely. And their kids were the first to experience what it is like to grow up in a worse environment than they did. I am not going to blame it on them personally, but rather say that the benefit of hindsight these days marks their behavior very clearly as being selfish. But that was before people had to have foresight into the economy and the environment.

So really, yeah, I am tired of these old people screwing up our country with their fucked up values. Get out there and educate yourself for a fucking change people! If you think Obama is a Muslim you’re a fucking idiot. That’s the type of people we’re dealing with here.

As for the boomers? Yeah they kind of piss me off. After they come as close to running this country to the ground as possible, giving the corporations (and by extension themselves) all the powers while doing very little to make sure there’s a livable wage, they have the gall to obstruct progress now that we clearly know we’re in deep shit.

People in my generation want someone who isn’t going to play by the same old Washington rules. Obama may or may not, but Hillary surely will. So we have to sit around and watch as they with few years left to go, continue to fuck us over? Yes it pisses me off. And they have invented the dialog of political idiocy. Suddenly somehow the idea of political correctness has morphed into a whole-sale feigning of ignorance to non-sanctioned ideas by the media. And of course one must act shocked when it happens. Take a look at the Imus scandal. That was a pure baby-boomer affair. It wasn’t the right thing to say, but nobody in my generation gets so goddamned sensitive about that stuff.

I’d be a little hesitant to credit GenX, Y or Gen whathaveyou, with becoming so completely post-racial. I think that babyboomers too have ebcome a bit more comfortable with a variety of skin colors and, it must also be factored in, both have had more exposure to middle class/well educated Black populations that share their values. Stereotypes are broken down by repeated exposure to that which conflicts with the stereotype. Not by enlightenment.

Explicit racism might indeed be decreasing but I’d dare say that institutional racism (or at least racist effects of institutional practices) is alive and well with sheer inertia.

Boomers did pretty well. The WWII generation was a hard act to follow but boomers made for tremendous societal changes. My teenager made a telling comment the other day watching a war protest and noticing that they were all older than me, “Yeah Dad, your generation got so fed up waiting for my generation to protest they’re doing themselves.” If you slackers want to step up to the plate then please go right ahead. But don’t whine about the fact that you might actually have to work to accomplish something.

And get off my lawn!