She was on CNN yesterday too. Due to their different way of counting or whatever, she constituted the person who tied Obama with Hillary. They were making a big deal out of that.
Good on her!
Looks like Hillary will have a pretty big win in W.Va. tomorrow, but I doubt it’ll make any difference. Obama is already (wisely) lowering expectations for his campaign there.
MSNBC reports that superdelegate Tom Allen, Congresscritter from Maine, has announced his support for Barack Obama. That makes the score something to something with Obama having the advantage.
“I have been friends for a very long time with former President Clinton and Sen. Clinton. I respect their service to our nation,” Allen said in a written statement. He added that “most of the primary voters across the nation have now spoken. It is time to bring a graceful end to the primary campaign. We now need to unify the Democratic party and focus on electing Sen. Obama and a working majority in the United States Senate.”
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Please show your work. 
I just love that sentence. It almost makes sense without context, but not quite.
The more I read about the Appalachians, the more depressing it is. They don’t even have the sense to deny being bigots. What a miserable bunch of useless, racist, toothless, banjo picking, rope belt wearing, squirrel munching, Ned Beatty raping, moonshine swilling, walking, talking stereotypes.
The really sad thing is the way the media paints this kind of “working class” racism as a failing on Obama’s part. They say “he has trouble reaching whites.” They never call a spade a spade with regards to these people.
I agree it’s very sad - living up to stereotypes is nothing new however, and the people in the appalachians are not about to change 350 years of culture for a brown presidential candidate. West Virginia is the only state 100% in what is defined as appalachia. The good news is that the autumn election will not be won or lost by west virginia.
Can one truly be said to munch a squirrel when one has no teeth?
That’s quite a load of stereotyping you did there. Nice work.
True, sad, and yes, more than a bit scary. (Above bolding mine)
WV is a little strange. I spent a week there at a college a few summers ago and went out for a drive one day to look around. A few miles out I got to where things looked a little too weird and I turned around and headed back.
I was there to attend a music camp and there were some very good banjo pickers there though.
I grew up in a little Ohio River town that was just across the water from West Virginia. There are a million hillbilly stereotypes and even more jokes - far too many of which have at least some basis in fact.
So it’s less sad and less scary to you when the bigots deny that they are bigots? Ask Diogenes about musical ability and skin color some time. You’ll be happy you did.
I know lots of people in Appalachia who deny being bigots right through their Klan hoods, several who have teeth, many who don’t play banjo, even more who have belts made of motorcycle drive chain, a few who prefer possum to squirrel, a majority who would do a cow or sheep before they did Ned Beatty, and many who prefer meth to white lightning.
Diogenes don’t know shit about hillbillies.
On the eve of the WV primary, Obama is headed to Florida and Michigan to campaign!
What a hoot!
They could count FL and MI now, with HRC methodology (MI 73C-55O), and Obama would still have a 100+ pledged delegate lead.
There should still be a penalty. Else next time there is a contested primary, the states will all want to jump the gun, knowing that they will in the end prevail and be seated anyway.
Yes, because at least those who are but deny it know it’s wrong, are somewhat cognizant of its impact on themselves and others, and are thus circumspect in their outward display of it. Those I interract with who I consider bigoted or racist know to keep a lid on that crap and conduct themselves professionally when I’m around. I can’t change what’s in folk’s hearts, but I can certainly, without qualm, conduct business with those who are outwardly respectful regardless of whatever irrational seething hatred they may have pent. Blatant bigotry and racism, on the other hand, is intolerable.
But how do you tell them apart? You have to play To Tell The Truth with everyone you meet. Will the real bigot please stand up. Count me, as a savage who can’t hold his liquor, squarely in line with those who want to see bigotry right out there on the table.
True. My solution:
a) Seat the FL/MI pledged delegates as voted on, with the MI uncommitteds going to Obama, and each delegate only being given 1/2 of a vote.
b) NO SUPERDELEGATES from either state. They were the people who failed to stand in the way of their state parties’ fucking things up. They should bear the full brunt of the penalty.
Call me a pragmatic behaviorist, or whatever, but I honestly don’t think it matters. I don’t give a shit what somebody has in his heart if his behavior is entirely above board and his actions cause no harm.
Maybe it’s a Southern thing — I know what it is to be slain with a smile and polite talk.
Anyway, back to forking Hillary…
I especially like RT’s (b) suggestion because the Democrats, for the most part, voted right along with the Republicans in the legislatures that violated party rules.