At the risk of sounding like a dittohead, after catching up I must agree with the above. At least in ST the conflict driving the plot (human v bug) survived in the movie; here, I’m not at all sure this will be the case.
At least the Empire functionary sent to Terminus was named Dorwin.
This show seems to be telling the story in the slowest way possible. Seriously, the last 3 episodes could have been cut to 1 episode (and probably should have). Though it remains very, very pretty.
I just watched the latest episode and the pace seems to be picking up a bit. I’m still not a huge fan of what is happening on Terminus but it is getting more interesting.
For those who have seen it I am curious about Demerzel’s action near the end of the episode (I will leave it at that for now…spoilers since the episode only just came out). It seems an important moment.
The animals they were hunting used their coloring for camouflage. Being color-blind actually made it easier for him to spot them. AFAIK this is actually a thing.
I had a hard time with that too… perhaps she’s changing her allegiance in some way? Of course, the real question is: how close is she to book-Demerzel, and if close, what does R. Daneel Olivaw think of the path the Empire is taking? Does this represent a moment like the passing of the Mandate of Heaven?
I wonder if we’re going to see the Imperial line splitting into multiple lineages. Perhaps this would allow “The General” from Foundation and Empire to be played closer to the original story?
I would argue it’s only slightly more interesting. The Empire stuff is by far the better plotline. I still don’t really care about Hardin, which seems to not be a good thing because I think they really want me to.
Olivaw has been around a loooong time. IIRC “he” follows the three rules of robotics but mainly follows a fourth law, the “Zeroth Law” which he feels is a natural consequence of the three laws. As such, his role has always been to nudge humanity this way or that to help humanity overall but subtly, from the shadows by being close to people in power and affecting them.
No idea if that is the case in the TV series though. So far we know almost nothing about Demerzel and her motivations and loyalties.
Side question: Who or what are the weird attendants floating aboard the spaceships—the ones that tuck passengers into their pods for the hyperjump? Are they highly modified humans (for what reason?) or robots? (And I guess, by the way Demerzel talks, it’s just a given that robots are around and NBD, and not something that was completely wiped from human memory by R. Daneel Olivaw?) Or …?
Brother Day mentions the spaceship attendants are modified humans and says he barely considers them human at all. Apparently they can stay awake and run the ship during jumps. Something Demerzel tells Brother Day trying the same would wreck his mind.
Regarding Demerzel: I think all robots are long gone. Wiped out by humans. Olivaw is the last one left and he hides his true nature most of the time (obviously the Emperors know but I think they are the only ones).
The hyperdrive in the original Asimov books didn’t seem to affect humans (except for the fact that, for a little while, they didn’t exist), but it did remind me of the effect of the Alderson Drive in Pournelle’s CoDominium books (e.g. The Mote in God’s Eye). I wonder if that’s where it came from?
Also, the jump ships’ gimbal-mounted fast-spinning gyroscopic rings were reminiscent of the wormhole generator setup in the movie Contact. I wonder if that’s becoming visual shorthand for hyperspace travel?
There was a mention in a previous episode of the “Robot Wars” in a context that made it seem like it was an earlier stage of the Empire, and I think it was said that Demerzel was the sole survivor.
I can’t remember where I read it but I recall a sci-fi book where people had to be put to sleep when a jump drive was used because, although the ship seemed to move between two points instantly, an awake mind experienced the full time if would normally take for light to travel that distance. So, if you jumped 200 light years your conscious mind experienced 200 years of being in a void and would be quite insane once they arrived.
Something which is apparently publicly known. Even if she weren’t a public figure at the very least generations of palace staff , courtiers, and high dignitaries would know that the Cleons have had the same majordomo for centuries. Demerzel may hide her true nature, but she’s not hiding her identity or changing her appearance (granted that’s probably much to jarring to the Cleons).
Or at least she wants the Cleons to think she’s a devotee of a religion - I’m pretty sure she’s not completely forthright with them.
Also, in a world where they clone the Cleons and have them run the Empire generation after generation, would it be implausible that they could tell the people they cloned their majordomo too? Although no one sees the younger/older stages, so maybe people would be suspicious about that