Frank Abagnale question

I think that in the 1970’s, most planes flew with vacant seats, because the booking system couldn’t tell when the plane was fully booked. They compensated to a certain extent by overbooking, but check-in knew who was flying when they turned up at the gate with a ticket. Except for pilots, cabin staff, and other people who didn’t need tickets.

Even if airlines normally booked their internal flights, in a system where you didn’t know until flight time if 45 people were going to turn up for 40 seats, their overall reliability of booking information can’t have been that good, so even if they weren’t all looking out for each other (as hotel and entertainment people still do), all you’d have to say is ‘yes, the paper work hasn’t come through again’.

And just to follow up, even if not for security purposes, but for business purposes. The airline should call the pilot to say that we need these guys down in Miami. Even if you have to bump two passengers, we have VIPs flying out of Miami tomorrow (or for scheduling purposes) we are telling you not to disbelieve these guys. They are for real and need two seats. Make sure they are on the plane.

Of course, you could be right and this is GQ, but I can’t believe that it was that lax back then. But of course, again being GQ, maybe that lax lead to the strict stuff I grew up with and the stricter stuff I grew into adulthood with and the ever more stricter stuff beyond.

True. But aside from the check fraud I’m not sure they learned anything.

It’s not the only such situation where people think that only insiders could understand their system. Through the 90s computer security was lax all over the place. I had no desire to steal or be destructive, but I could get deep into computer systems all over the place because on so many machines nobody ever changed the default manager’s password. They’d give me a password with limited access and never considered I might know the password that let me own the machine.

Abagnale posed as a doctor, and they had that same problem big time. In recent years a little more security was developed but not that much. Walk into a hospital with a lab coat on, or just have a stethoscope hung over your shoulder, and they’ll believe you’re medical personnel.

Yes, but you can’t do anything. If you dont have a badge or “privileges” the staff will not let you get near a patient or do anything medical.

Hell yeah it was. Computer services were quite rudimentary. There weren’t cameras everywhere, cell phones to quickly call in suspicious behavior, not as many police. No TV shows like Americas most wanted, no 24 hour news channels to continually post stories of wanted criminals. Nothing but pictures at the local post office.

Using just a type writer, white out, and photocopy machine one could fabricate a believable birth certificate. Using that they could get an ID card, drivers license, and then a Social Security card. Then they would get a store credit card and build up credit with it. After a while they’d have an American Express card, Bank Americard (Visa) and a Master Charge card and a checking account all in the name of someone who didn’t exist. They’d paper a town with bad checks and thousands of dollars worth of charges. Then they’d destroy those ID documents and their fake person would vanish and cease to exist. It was called paper tripping and it was rampant in the 70’s. It can still be done today but it’s much, much more difficult and not as prevalent as it used to be. ID crime is now perpetrated using a real persons identity and done via cyber.

Yes, this (except that he pretended to be Pan Am but would never fly Pan Am).

What he was making use of (as far as flying for free was concerned) was the fact that, as a matter of courtesy, airlines would give free “deadweight” lifts to pilots of other airlines who had to go to a particular airport to take over their own flight there. He’d be seated on a jump seat in the cockpit (rather than the passenger cabin) and have friendly chats with the crew there.

I also recall that you didn’t have to have ID at all to fly. You just turned up with a ticket. Which you got from a travel agent. And if you did have ID, (for international flights), it didn’t have to match the name on the ticket. And if it did match the name on the ticket, it didn’t have to be the ID you used to enter the international country.

When I was a kid, it also used to be you could walk all the way up to the gate without a ticket and say goodbye to people right at the door of the jetway. The arrangement where they’re controlling access to the departure terminals for ticketholders only is a relatively recent innovation, historically speaking.

Air travel in the 1960’s and very early 70’s was pretty damn lax by our standards. I remember when you went to the airport, bought a ticket 10 minutes before take-off with no ID required and just walked out to the airplane like boarding a city bus or commuter train. No security, no questions, just “here’s the money” and get on the airplane.

Some guy shows up in a pilot’s uniform just before boarding wanting to dead-head on a flight, sure, I could see him getting on board, no problem. The assigned pilots are already on the airplane, he’s just hitching a ride. At most you might need to show a pilot’s license but in those days they were just a small rectangle of cardboard, no photo required, and if I recall from the book he obtained one from another pilot and carried that in case he was ever asked to show one.

He’s basically just another last-minute passenger, but in a fancy uniform.

Those who started flying in the 70’s have no clue how lax (by our standards) flying used to be. Applies even more heavily to folks who started flying in the 80’s, 90’s, or '00’s.

Thanks; it’s been a while since I’ve seen the movie.

I think people forget a lot of what life was like “way back when”.

Before 9-11 planes typically flew half to one-third empty except during holidays. Recall the 9-11 hijackers picked early morning flights that would be les than half full, in order to avoid something like Flight 93 where a lot of passengers might gang up on them, considering they only had utility knives.

Until the 80’s you could walk up to the gate to say goodbye to loved ones. The plot of Airplane (first of the series) in the early 70’s featured an old lady who conned her way onto flights “I was just on and came off and forgot my boarding pass on the seat” and that sort of thing. Apparently this was based on a real person or two. Sweet old ladies never lie, right?

I recall a short bit in Readers Digest where some guy whose wife was a stewardess would often, if his wife was off working, babysit the young kids by taking them on a flight using the wife’s employee family pass. Unlimited free flights in those days (but first to be bumped) he’d take a short flight (IIRC Chicago to Minneapolis or something) and then home again, a fun time and the kids would get their dinner served on the plane - real food. Times have changed.

Abagnale found that if he dressed the part, nobody questioned him. There was no security, no manadatory employee ID’s; pilots let other pilots “deadhead” to go home or to get to their next assignment, no matter which airline they worked for, as a matter of courtesy. The fancier security only came in the 80’s and 90’s when hijacking in Europe by terrorists after the Munich Olympics became a threat in North America too. Before that, it was the occasional harmless nut (or DB Cooper) who just waved around a pistol and just wanted to go to Cuba. Someone showing up dressed and acting the part was probably 90% of any con job before IDs were required. Also if you recall the movie, he found out where the pilot uniforms came from, and talked his way through getting a uniform even though his “requisition had been lost”.

One trick shown is where he used airline logo decals from model planes to make the fake cheques look amazingly real. In the days before personal colour printers, anything that “looked professional” was convincing. Even drivers licenses and birth certificates were typically typewriter or computer line printer on preprinted forms. But in the days when credit cards were rare and most business was done by cash or cheque, assorted cheque scams were a common occurrence. Whether he did as much as he claims -well, we have his word on that for what it’s worth.

I recall one crime I read about, where someone just bought a computer dot matrix printer in the earliest days, some preprinted invoice forms, and sent fake invoices to a number of small county and city government offices. People would see a computer printout and not question that it might be fake, because they did not realize this tech was easily available; the problem was that the procedures for verifying invoice payments was far too lax.

I also recall an article about some Nova Scotia town many decades ago upset at losing its doctor - because apparently, he was not a real doctor. He covered it up by ordering unnecessary tests; most complaints were simply fixed by prescribing drugs, but writing prescriptions without a licnse was the crime that finally got him caught.

Another item from way back when was the fellow who always wanted to be a doctor (much like some people always wanted to be policemen). One day he put on a lab coat, wandered into a hospital, and decided to play doctor. Apparently with one patient, he decided to take a blood sample - which of course, he’d only seen when he’d had it done to himself. After he stuck the lady in the arm about 10 times without result, she got very vocal and he was found out and arrested. That’s the sort of problem that resulted in all hospital staff needing to display ID.

I don’t know whether European countries have statutes of limitations, but if they did, then I would assume by the time he’d served his sentence in America he’d be outside the limit elsewhere.

In the 1980s when I was on the faculty of an institute at a university, we would give classes all over the US; there were perhaps 20 faculty and 50 adjuncts doing so (the adjuncts usually subject matter experts still working in the industry). Often, an instructor would go from one weekly assignment directly to another without a trip back home. Since round-trip tickets were almost always cheaper than one-way, the travel managers would arrange it so instructors would “swap” tickets as needed depending on destination desired and who else was in that town at the time. It was done hundreds of times without a problem.

Older folks like me will probably remember newspaper classified ads offering to sell airline tickets (booked in that individual’s name), usually at a discount. They were legit ads; airline tickets were essentially bearer documents. People’s travel plans change and if they weren’t able to get a refund (or didn’t need a credit) they could cut their losses by retailing the ticket.

I worked for Pan Am (a government services arm, not the airline operation) in the 1980s, and we got a book of blank tickets (carbonized with 1 or 2 copies, as I recall). You simply filled in where you wanted to go, and showed up. Of course, you were traveling on the absolutely lowest level of standby (S-9?), so if your desired flight was full you had to wait around for the next one, or fly elsewhere. Good times. Too bad I was too poor to actually stay at any of Pan Am’s fantastic destination cities (they didn’t have a huge intra-US network).

Yep. Like glorious red eye flights. Usually dirt cheap, quite empty, and rarely screaming/crying kids.

During my first career I got caught up in investigating a case like this. Normally I wouldn’t have been involved in a financial crime as I was a compliance inspector in the vice sector, but the victim was a major brewery and I and another detective got saddled with it.

A guy was sending the comptrollers office realistic bills for over a year and they were paying them. We ended up doing a mail cover surveillance on the drop box he had rented, then surveillance on him. He was doing this to several large companies for over a year to the tune of a quarter million dollars.

I haven’t seen Airplane (it is on my watch list, though), but this is in Airport, the serious (i.e., non-comedy) disaster film that Airplane spoofs.

You could take a ticket from one airline to another and they’d put you on a flight if they had a seat. Already mentioned was the plethora of seats and flights available. Missing a flight was usually not a big concern because another airline had one taking off soon. People with the right access at the airports could get on the airline computer system and get you on any flight for any price. You could carry a ton of stuff on the planes and they’d try to find a place to stow it for you. There were back doors on many planes, and a smoking section.

I was on a fantastic flight from Miami to New York on one of the last Eastern Airlines flights taking to the air before they shut down. We were having a party in the back of the plane, the stews* got out a case of little bottles of wine and we opened bags of peanuts and dumped them into some bowls to pass around. That had to be the best flight I was ever on.

*Stews - perfectly acceptable term for flight attendants once upon a time.

Not intended comedy I guess.

I think too that back in the day the airlines saw it as a slight benefit to have a pilot deadheading. While it’s very unlikely they’d ever be needed, having “another spare” pilot there in the cockpit was a little bit of extra security in case anything happened. Obviously with 2-3 pilot crews it would be unusual for the deadheading pilot to ever be pressed into service, it was still a minor piece of insurance above and beyond the norm.

And as with any confidence scheme–just having that preternatural ability to act like you are who you say you are, and doing what you’re supposed to be doing has an incredible effect on most people. Even with modern, advanced technology and advanced security systems, that sort of ability to impart confidence and believability still finds its way around systems with lots of safeguards.

First Sybil and now this! Next you’re going to tell me Erma Bombeck didn’t even have any kids! :unamused:

Just a few days ago there was this incident:

So not only can you get into places you’re not supposed to be, you can get the guards to pay for the taxi which brought you there.

To add more, there’s the couple that were able to penetrate White House security during the Obama administration. If people can get past WH security in 2009 then Abagnale’s airport stories from the 60’s seem reasonable.