Free Market Babies: A Simplistic Analysis

In another thread about deadbeat dads a startling notion came to me. I promised to create a thread on the idea instead of continuing to hijack that one. This is that thread.

I’ve tried to make my most glaring assumptions explicit, but there are a ton of assumptions I’ve not mentioned. Even with the simplifying assumptions this post is already very long for what, after all, might turn out to be a non-debate. Most of the implicit assumptions are about additional costs, like STDs, but some are more hidden like the cost of abortion (including dollar-estimated health risks). I hope the ones I’ve made are good enough to get the ball rolling without complaint by granting me my laziness, and the one’s I’ve not included are incidental to the overall point of the debate which is summarized at the end. For some of the assumptions I’ve made, specifically (1) and (3) as listed below, I have some justification but I’ve left it out of this post.

Even if not mentioned, all data comes from Wikipedia, but I’ve tried to be clear.

The Cost of Sex

Let’s get the incentives in sex right.

I’m going to propose the following: women have no help from society with respect to the cost of child-rearing. There’s no child-support laws. There’s no tax deductions. We assign absolute priority over the child to her, and leave the bargaining over costs to interested parties. Society says, “We cannot set priorities for women. The free market thing to do is let women be in charge of their own destinies. They are aware of the costs they face better than some legislator. We promise only to enforce any contracts she makes.” How noble, eh? (You may wish to reserve your judgment on the level of sarcasm there until the end.)

What the woman wants to do is buy baby insurance; that is, if she gets pregnant, the insurance contract pays out the costs she will face. Men might want this insurance, too. The problem is that there’s no open market for baby insurance, and there cannot be. Insurance agents have no way of distinguishing the people genuinely interested in avoiding pregnancy from the people who are interested in having a child but looking for a way to lessen their costs. Even if the agent did, the agent has no way to distinguish responsible birth control users from people who, policy in hand, throw caution to the wind. The market just can’t exist.

So, the woman is going to have to bargain with the man up front. She wishes him to cover the expected cost of pregnancy up front. (That this is unfair is dealt with soon. Bargaining goes in two directions.)

First, let us make some simplifying assumptions. They are not excellent simplifying assumptions, but they tidy up an already messy calculation, as we shall see.
[ol][li]Women bear all the costs of child rearing without help from society.[/li][li]The woman loses no income due to childbirth.[/li][li]Society exactly covers the costs of pregnancy and childbirth.[/li][li]There are no “lifetime earnings” decreases.[/li][li]The woman sees no benefit from having a child.[/li][li]The woman will be a working mom from which all costs of childrearing are paid.[/li][li]Men cannot bargain for custodial rights.[/li][/ol]

Assumptions in hand, let’s proceed.

First, the woman will calculate the expected change in income. To do this, she has to make two estimates. The first estimate is how much she will make after having a child, caring for it the way she feels it should be cared for. This is her “new income” I[sub]N[/sub]. The second estimate is what portion of I[sub]N[/sub] will go towards the child. This rate is R[sub]child[/sub]. Therefore the first-pass cost to her, with original income I[sub]O[/sub],

ΔI = I[sub]O[/sub] - (1 - R[sub]child[/sub]) x I[sub]N[/sub].
If I[sub]O[/sub] = I[sub]N[/sub] then this is just the cost of childrearing directly, that is, income times the portion of wages spent on the child.

If she expects her real wages to increase by R[sub]WI[/sub] each year in either case, and she expects to care for the child for 18 years, then the total wage adjustment is

R[sub]wage[/sub] = SUM (from n=0 to 17) (1+R[sub]WI[/sub])[sup]n[/sup]

Meaning her total cost is ΔI x R[sub]wage[/sub].

The man who she’s about to have sex with is not interested in paying this amount to her. And she, of course, knows this. Since she doesn’t want to be pregnant, and he is interested in decreasing costs, they are both going to insist he wears a condom with a 2% failure rate (see wikipedia) and it is in her interest to ensure it is a good condom, since she has no legal hold over him. She is also going to be on the pill which, if she weren’t already, the man would insist she would be to decrease costs. Typical pill use has an 8% failure rate (wikipedia), but also carries some health risks, so she will adjust the rate up a bit to 10% to account for this. Therefore, the chance of birth control failure

R[sub]BCf[/sub] = R[sub]c[/sub] x R[sub]p[/sub]

Her expected costs will be discounted by this amount.

The man is not interested in this price at all. After all, he says, I will sign a contract to cover half the expenses. Wikipedia indicates about 50% of fathers under our current system pay all they are expected to, and about 75% of fathers pay something. Therefore she generously takes the geometric mean of this and prepares a discount of a 61% chance (truth rate of R[sub]T[/sub]) of paying 50% of the costs.

ΔI[sub]contract[/sub] = I[sub]O[/sub] - R[sub]T[/sub] x 0.5 x (1 - R[sub]child[/sub]) x I[sub]N[/sub]

(Note she might insist he pay 50% of ΔI. I am assuming he is only going to cover the cost of the childrearing, not 50% of the mother’s cost. If you wish it to be the other way, consider that the mother then has a perverse incentive to earn as little as possible; this way, she has the incentive to shower as much monetary-love as she can stand.)

Unfortunately, the man will have none of it. He reads wikipedia, too, and wikipedia suggests that 26% of known pregnancies are aborted, 3.3% of childbirths are given up for adoption, and 15% of pregnancies result in a miscarriage. He therefore sees her incentive to cheat as

R[sub]cheat[/sub] = 1- R[sub]ab[/sub] - R[sub]ad[/sub] - R[sub]mc[/sub]

and he adjusts the abortion and adoption percentages upwards slightly, abortion by 3% and adoption by 10%, to compensate for her incentive to cheat. (The miscarriage rate doesn’t move.) He of course phrases it much more politely, eager to have sex. (R[sub]cheat[/sub] = 0.427)

The woman is bringing in $20,000 net and anticipates that because of her mostly crappy job she won’t see a significant change in income while being a mother, making I[sub]O[/sub] = I[sub]N[/sub]. She plans on giving 50% of her earnings to any child she has. She expects her real income to increase by only 1% per year (that is, inflation-adjusted income).

Still, the man insists, even if you are receptive to pregnancy, about which he will only give a 50% chance, her chances are still only about 20% of getting pregnant. She discounts accordingly. He makes no mention of the morning-after pill, being a megadose of hormones he is uncomfortable insisting this option be available.

She opens up the little python script I wrote to calculate this mess and comes up with the dollar amount she expects to receive prior to the sex act of $26.68 (plus pill and condom expenses). ($6.67 if our swaggering stud insists on the morning after pill after all.)

An old classmate of hers, a well above average income earner, is bringing in $40,000 and expects her income to drop to $35,000 if she were a working mom and has to charge $54.56 per sex act.

A McDonalds worker making $8/hour paying no taxes, expecting to make $8 an hour after childbirth, with the 1% real wage increase (hah! she wishes), is charging $22.20. Think her incentives are wrong? If she doesn’t insist on a condom, she’s got to charge $1109.83. If she’s not on the pill either, she’s got to charge ten times that, or $11098.31. If she uses a condom and the pill, but abortions are illegal and there is no chance of one, she needs to charge $1863.58.

(If anyone would like some more numbers under these assumptions, please let me know. You may also email me at gmail under my screename.)

The debate

So much for the lecture portion of our thread.

I have been pitching this to people I know IRL for some time, and there is only one objection I hear again and again: “This turns women into prostitutes!” Perhaps cheap ones, at that. You are welcome to raise that issue with me, but first what I ask you to consider is whose interests is it in to make prostitution illegal? If we’re trying to get the incentives right, this is an important question. Men may be jerks, but perhaps not for the reasons we all think!

It’s a ridiculous proposal, isn’t it? Isn’t it? I’m practically Jonathan Swift shoving fat little children down the throats of the wealthy, aren’t I?

We want to encourage birth control. We want to encourage men to accept responsibility not for a portion of their income but the genuine cost of having a child. We want women to have control over their bodies. Doesn’t this plan get all the incentives right? Doesn’t it encourage people to act responsibly? Would the free market work in this case? I’m especially interested from the free marketeers in this regard.

While my proposal perhaps is too extreme to be put into practice, does the thought experiment tell us that the abstinence crowd doesn’t realize the true cost of sex? Does this show us that abstinence programs simply cannot be expected to work, when we account for the cost of sex with the right incentives?-- After all, I have completely ignored the benefit of having sex; it’s wicked fun. Does the calculation I’ve shown really drive home the need for good sex ed? Would you use it to convince your son or daughter?

Finally, does this emphasize the importance of access to abortions? Or, for the flip side, does this help people realize the cost of outlawing abortion? (For even if outlawing abortion is a benefit, it does have a cost.)

You have an information assymmetry problem. People often don’t stop to analyze costs just before sex, and my guess is a good chunk of them will significantly underprice sex (ie - give it away for free).

This would lead to an externality problem, since with sex underpriced, there will not be adequate funds to care for the child.

Well in principle she could run down the calculations far in advance of the sexual act, accounting for the case where he contracts to cover half the expenses and the case where he doesn’t. The bargaining process is just a story. I like telling stories. :slight_smile: Ultimately the man is going to demand the pill or something similar and they will agree on a condom and the only real question is whether he’s going to sign a contract to bear half the costs (and in which way).

Women wishing to discount massively could simply promise themselves to take the morning after pill and swear to have an abortion, which would bring the cost down hugely, enough for her to not bother at all. There are options here, but I’m kind of assuming that vowing to have an abortion and taking the morning after pill after every sex act is not in the woman’s interest. If she gets pregnant she might change her mind, and taking megadoses of hormones regularly is certainly not a good idea.

If only there were some form of standardized binding contract that women could ask men to sign before sex. That way both parties would be responsible for child-rearing expenses, providing a strong incentive for them to act responsibly. What a pity such a thing doesn’t exist!

So what do you tell kids who grow up poor and without a father? “sorry mummy legal pad was out of paper”?

Ok, but I still think you have an externality problem here. There’s a third party to this transaction, which is the baby (if one is born). The first problem is that the decision about how much the baby costs is in the woman’s discretion, when the cost of the baby should be determined by what is minimally optimal for the baby. This doesn’t change the equations, but it changes your story.

The second problem I see is this: your McDonald’s worker charges $22 for sex. Let’s say it’s her first time, and she doesn’t cheat. And she still gets pregnant. Now she doesn’t have enough money to support the baby. The only way for her to do that is to keep having sex enough times so that the percentage calculations you are employing generates enough money to pay for the baby.

It seems to me like your using a self-insurance model to cover a third party (the baby), and if the McDonald’s worker doesn’t have enough reserve funds, then she won’t be adequately insured for a long, long time.

I’m not an economist, so I’m not sure if I’m explaining this properly.

Having really been this child in this real society, I’m not sure what you’re suggesting would be different. Can you elaborate?

Having grew up like that myself I know what it’s like and wouldn’t wish it on any child. The fewer this happens to the better.

Yes, I am assuming babies cannot bargain. :wink: Let’s suppose I agree with you, though: who should determine what is “minimally optimal”? And wouldn’t it be in a woman’s interest to show a man how good of a mother she would be, at least monetarily? I mean, let’s face it, people who have sex sometimes happen to stick together for life. So my calculation might be low for this reason.

This is already true, whether she asks for compensation for her risks or not, wouldn’t you say? In any case, how would you suggest she adjust the calculation to compensate?

I’m assuming she’s going to work. This is where the money to support the child will come from, not from being paid for sex. She is asking for compensation for her risks. That compensation includes the assumption that she’ll be working for money. Her problem, in my tale, is that she cannot diversify her risk. Some women will never get pregnant, and in the end wouldn’t have needed to charge a dime. Would women somehow band together to help deal this problem, or is it hopeless? (If it is hopeless, how have we banded together as a society to try and help parents? This question is also for The Tao’s Revenge.)

Beats me. Maybe a fixed calculation of the amount necessary to provide a minimum amount of food, clothing, education, shelter and health care? We could use something like the poverty line.

I don’t see why it’s in the woman’s interest necessarily. Some women will place a high value on having a well-cared-for child, maybe to attract a mate or look good for the neighbors or to plan for old age or because they think babies are cute. But there are going to be women who don’t value children as much as they value other things–children are expensive to care for. In that case, the cost of the sex act has been negatively externalized onto the child (if it’s born).

Yes, it’s true, which is why we have things like child support, WIC, AFDC, Child Protective Services, etc. I thought under you plan, these type of 3rd party supports were eliminated? Or did I misunderstand?

To avoid the negative externality, the woman and her partner should purchase an annuity that covers the cost of child care for the next 18 years. If the baby isn’t born, then the woman and man split the annuity payments (based on how much each contributed to the annuity). If the baby is born, then the person caring for the child gets the annuity payment to use on the child. The woman and man could negotiate between themselves who pays what portion of the annuity.

Which means only rich people will have sex, I guess.

Right, but what if the woman hasn’t taken a job with enough salary to cover the cost of the child?

I think this is where I’m getting confused. Her risks are distinct from the child’s risks.

Some women would band together, but some are going to choose not to, and those will be the ones who externalize the cost of having sex onto the baby.

I agree with all of this. But more later. Even if the scheme is wrong, though, how do you feel about the calculation itself? Is it informative? Even in today’s society where we don’t leave mothers to starve, generally, would it help them think about the cost of sex? Or is it meaningless with welfare lurking in the background?

You didn’t misunderstand, but my point is that whether there’s WIC or not, she’s having sex when she’s not capable, in our estimation, of really bearing the cost. So your overall response might be, “The incentives are still wrong.” And then my question is, “Can they be made right?” And it seems they cannot. Which… is interesting.

Ah, quite interesting! I had the same thought myself actually, along with this:

Shit. Well, how much credit would he need? Is it a matter of buying a house or having sex? Is this is back to the insurance problem, or different? A man and a woman have saved up private funds, and when they get together they scan each other’s cards and lock up the funds. If they break up, both parties must agree to free the funds again. Would credit work for this? I’m… confusing myself. The woman’s expected costs, we agree, are rather startlingly low, since we know the overall costs are either really high or zero. We want to insure the really high case, but we can’t, because the incentive to cheat is too huge. When the incentive to cheat is gone, we’ve bargained ourselves into a position that seems to not really account for the cost of sex. So we consider accounting for the entire cost up front. I feel like an economic system going backwards in time.

When the risk and cost is right, we’re uneasy about accepting it. When we put something forward that makes up for it, it seems prohibitively expensive. OK. I’m going to appeal to a small bit of empirical data: there are over 4 billion people in the world, almost all of which don’t have the funds or credit for the thousands and thousands of dollars involved. So… is this the wrong intuition, and my cost is probably quite right?

I guess she has to give it up for adoption, the possibility of which was already included in the analysis.

True. But I cannot imagine any way to account for the child’s risks, part from the good nature of human beings in general.

I think you are really preoccupied with the costs children bear… rightly, but I don’t see how it matters. If WIC, etc, decreases the cost of sex in our society, the woman is thinking only the same or less for the costs the child bears. (I don’t suppose you would claim that now she will think more of them.) I think it just factors out of the equation, unless you can imagine some way to account for it. (I cannot.) I mean, welfare cannot possibly make her more concerned about having sex than being homeless and destitute with a child. So, yeah, kids’ concerns are important, but I don’t see how to account for them, and even if I give up the free market case, I don’t see how what we’ve done in our own societies has countered it, you see what I mean? So it’s an important issue in general, but not a good critique of this plan, IMO. I mean, it’s an important argument for helping children, but practically irrelevant for the cost of having sex, unless we can find a way that the market, after all, would account for it.

Given your simplifying assumptions, your calculation looks correct to me–I’m assuming that any damage to the mother’s health caused by the pregnancy is covered by society per assumption #3. But I don’t really find these simplifying assumptions practically useful. Why would a society that isn’t covering the costs of child rearing cover the costs of the pregnancy? Doesn’t covering the cost of child birth create a perverse incentive?

The problem, I think, is that people don’t analyze the cost of sex rationally, or at least they place an extremely high value on instant sexual gratification. For example, given the risks of having sex without a condom and the amount of information out there about AIDS, if people were acting rationally, the disease should be all but elminated in the US.

I think your calculation is useful for a professional prostitute to determine the rate she should charge as a pure salary negotiation.

Yep. I’m not sure there’s a good way to structure the incentives, because we feel obligated to care for children for utilitarian or moral or genetic reasons. This, I think, means that either individually or collectively, we will not behave rationally when it comes to child care.

Yeah, unless the partners are more or less monogamous, it seems pretty impractical to purchase annuities to cover the cost of sex (at least for the male). But now that I think about it, women, in the absence of things like invitro fertilization, will have an average upper limit on the number of kids they can have. Perhaps we can work out an insurance scheme, given that.

This, I think shows the problem in approaching certain issues under a purely capitalist framework. If your goal is that women are adequately compensated, on average, for their sex costs, then I agree your scheme is workable. But if the goal is that each child is adequately provided for, then I don’t think this scheme will work.

Well, I suppose this is the libertarian way to think about things. Personally, I always assume that in a group of people, any and all preferences that can be expressed will be expressed at some point. I think history has shown that good nature and social disapproval aren’t great constraints against human behavior when tangible economic incentives point in the other direction.

I can’t think of a market way to account for it either. I will agree that third-party supports create a distortion that incentivizes towards having babies. But third-party supports (theoretically) have a positive externality, if the child grows up to be a productive, tax-paying member of society. Now, if we lived in Gattaca, we could determine who was going to have a positive externality and provide third-party supports accordingly (and perhaps we could use these calculations to develop and insurance scheme for sex as well).

But if we’re just focusing on the costs to the mother of having sex, then your plan seems correct to me.

[quote=“erislover, post:1, topic:471965”]

I have been pitching this to people I know IRL for some time, and there is only one objection I hear again and again: “This turns women into prostitutes!” Perhaps cheap ones, at that. You are welcome to raise that issue with me, but first what I ask you to consider is whose interests is it in to make prostitution illegal? If we’re trying to get the incentives right, this is an important question.
It is in the interests of most people that prostitution be made illegal, which is why most people vote for politicians who will uphold the ban on it.

Yup.

The first sentence: depends who “we” are. Many people do not.

The second sentence: I can’t say I’ve met anyone besides yourself who says so specifically.

Third sentence: Agreed.

Fourth and fifth sentences: No. I’ll explain when I have the time to do so.

Please forgive me if I skip a point-by-point response to the OP and cut to the chase. Your list of incentives leaves out many incentives, your list of assumptions leaves out many of your assumptions, and your discussion of costs leaves out many costs and benefits. In toto, I’d say your biggest assumption is that sex is a financial transaction, no different in kind than paying for a haircut or selling an hour of physical labor. But since sex is not such a transaction, the rest of the discussion is just a big category mistake, kind of like computing the number of calories in a shirt.

And of course if that assumption were true, it would torpedo your argument. When people pay for something, they assume that it becomes their property and they may do as they please with it. Hence, when men pay for sex, it causes them to become more controlling and abusive, exactly as one woud expect.

A well-known experiment was once conducted by day-care centers in Israel. Rather than simply allowing parents to pick up their children late, they started charging money for late pick-ups. The result was more late pick-ups. Charging money for irresponsbile behavior leads to more irresponsbile behavior.

No and no, for the reasons mentioned above.

No and no.

This is not “charging for sex” it is “accounting for risk.” It’s ad hoc insurance, not a question of ownership. When I buy insurance, it is to secure what I already own. So I don’t understand that comment at all.

Sex is not a financial transaction, but that does not mean that there aren’t financial consequences. Gambling is also not a financial transaction, though part of the fun and all of the heartache lies in the financial consequences. I have only included financial calculations, but a better formula would attempt to assign dollar values to non-monetary benefits and costs which would be even more hotly contested than what I posted in the first place. Assuming that child is only a cost is simplistic. Assuming there is no benefit to sex is simplistic. I grant you all that and more.

I do realize there is much unsaid; in the four page paper I wrote on this subject I presented a full page of additional commentary on things I left unspoken and surely it could have spanned an entire book. Steven Landsburg in “More Sex is Safer Sex” dedicated five pages to a very meager development of the idea that children are probably underproduced. Such is the economics of time.

How much does she have to pay for an orgasm?

The first is free.

Wasn’t this in Freakonomics? I’m pretty sure the moral of the story was that guilt is a powerful disincentive. If you get rid of guilt as a cost of late pickups, you’d better charge a pretty high fee to match it. Charging money for irresponsible behavior only increases that behavior when you didn’t charge enough money for it. It is pretty easy to beat guilt as a disincentive; just charge more than a nominal fee, like the OP suggested.

And OP, what about married folks? Was marriage ruled out in your assumptions? If not, I think a good way to win over conservatives with your plan is to emphasize how it motivates more marriages and discourages casual sex. As a guy, if every time I want to get laid I have to cough up 20-50 bucks, I’m definitely thinking about buying the cow so I can get the milk for free. Otherwise, by the time I do end up having a kid, my money is already spent on other women’s potential children. Besides, I like frequent sex; incidentally, so do a lot of other guys. About the only way to get it with your plan is to make a six-figure salary or get married.

Women are already in charge of their own destinies. Outside of being raped, of course, women are 100% free to avoid having sex, and avoid all costs related to pregnancy.

An insurance company that is bundling thousands of potential pregnancies can have someone cover the “expected cost”. An individual who only gets covered for the expected cost is just gambling with her future, if she gets pregnant, she’s completely fucked, if she doesn’t get pregnant, she makes out like a bandit. The whole point of insurance (and child support) is that if she gets pregnant, she and her child aren’t completely fucked.

So, the man is supposed to pay 10x the price because she’s “not on the pill” even though there’s no way he could possibly know whether or not she’s actually on the pill.

Numbers like this are meaningless. You want kids to be more responsible, show the girls 20 straight hours of one tough vaginal birth. That would fun “girls, for the next 4 weeks of class, we’re going to follow ONE birth from start to finish.” For the boys, drill into their heads that irresponsible sex could put them on the hook for losing up to a quarter of their income for the next 18 years of their lives. For that 18 year period, they’ll be working nearly 5 years to support the product of that one sex act. That’s like 9,000 hours of work, just so you could have sex without a condom.

Marriage is just an agreement between two parties as far as society is concerned. They can get married or not.

And by outlawing prostitution, aren’t you extracting rent from women? I’m not saying women are prostitutes, but they face more risk from the man and are not compensated for that risk. Our society would consider such compensation “prostitution” even though you and I know that’s not what the issue is.

I am sure we all like frequent sex. Failing to understand the cost of our decisions, even if we don’t literally pay our wives or girlfriends for their risk, is something I hoped to rectify with this post. Why not start a sex savings plan?

Yes, of course. It was rhetorical.

Yes, sex is gambling, you are 100% right. I attempted to put a dollar figure on the gamble. It is not the greatest dollar figure, but it is better than no dollar figure. Yes, the problem is that the woman cannot diversify her risk. One of the questions I’ve asked of another poster is whether this would create pressure to diversify risk by women coming together somehow. But anyway, it seems this criticism suggests my number is simply too low.

Right, and isn’t it interesting that it is in the man’s interest to contract for child care anyway? The difference between my plan and society’s plan is that my plan allows a woman to seek restitution for her risk. Society’s plan is, “Maybe you’ll get something, if we track the man down, but you cannot account for your risk.” My plan is better than society’s plan in that small regard.

There’s no need for him to know whether she is or not, because at the stage of “pill or no pill” it is a question of lowering costs. If you wish to see what the woman charges when the man doesn’t contract for child support I can run some numbers for you.

That is one way to emphasize one cost, but childbirth, while grueling, is over and then there’s 18 more years of costs to come. Without wishing to diminish the act of childbirth, I felt the latter cost was more important.