monstro has discussed her ethnicity on the board, and also has a photo in the picture thread in MPSIMS. I have no doubt that Zeke was aware of it, or he wouldn’t have used that specific insult.
Now you’re just being disingenuous. I don’t think anyone is so ignorant to be unaware that using such an insult against a black person is especially pernicious.
If you know they are black, sure. If you don’t then no. I don’t agree.
If you are that certain then fine, have at it. My suggestion is that you should be sure about it rather than assuming everyone should know that and my original question was with that in mind.
I’ve personally never seen the picture thread (didn’t know there was one) and had no idea of monstro’s ethnicity or gender. You seem to have knowledge of motivations and personal information about posters that aren’t apparent to me.
Since there is no burning need for monkey-based insults, I think I’m fine with the mods not giving much benefit of the doubt here.
Yes, but you’ve been belaboring the point after having been informed differently.
I said that it was pernicious if used against a black person. By beating this into the ground you just make yourself look ignorant. But suit yourself.
FWIW I had no idea monstro was black or a woman, but I will not miss Zeke very much.
I take that as a concession and leave you to it
Well, you posted 43 times, and monstro 38 times, in this thread from this February, in which she made it clear she was black.
If you are going to take it upon yourself to comment on such things, perhaps you should pay more attention to them.
She didn’t have a good time? What I remember is he kept pressing and pressing and she kept thinking, “Where did that great guy I thought I was on a date with go?” His behavior was greatly at odds with the way he presented himself, so how was she to know how to deal with him?
And anybody who thinks they can whine that women don’t say “no” bluntly enough or that men don’t understand social cues need to stuff it, because for one, women get killed for saying no; this guy suddenly changed his behavior, so all bets are off, and strangely enough, men have no problem with social cues in any other situation where getting laid is not on the table. If guys were really this bad at reading cues, they’d be like that with everybody.
Also? Guys who keep asking and pushing and asking are the goddamned problem, not women. What’s the point of saying “no” when guys just reject it or pretend they don’t hear it?
There’s more than a hint from the guys dismissing the Ansari situation that a good date for a guy means a bad date for the woman, and it’s all on her to deal with it, but she better not complain, ever, in any way about it. Why not? That’s an interesting question, isn’t it?
Also, ‘she didn’t say no’ is pretty much like, ‘well, it’s not illegal’ or ‘he hasn’t been arrested.’ If those are valid arguments, then start applying them to Hillary Clinton, Christine Blasey-Ford, and any woman who guys call a false accuser for dropping charges.
I take absolutely no notice of the names of posters or such personal information. Perhaps not everyone is like you?
We shouldn’t have to act like an insane stalker or the CIA by keeping a database on each poster complete with picture, medical history, genealogy, and dna test. I mean if we are going to have a pit let’s have a pit.
There is more to pitting than ineffectual and boring cliches. Why are you folks trying to calibrate offensiveness and effectiveness of insults when the whole point of an insult is to be insulting? Seems pretentious.
I’m saying that if you are going to comment on whether or not another poster might be black, then you should pay attention to such things rather than displaying your obliviousness. You were the one who assumed that Zeke was like you.
If you’re going to use an insult that historically has been used specifically as hate speech against black people, you better make damn sure that that person isn’t black. If you are going to use such a specific insult, then the onus is on you. There are plenty of insults available that don’t have that baggage.
Can I call you crazy, dumb, simple minded? Or do I need to know your Stanford-Binet results?
Those remarks are not considered hate speech. But go on trying to change the subject.
But perhaps we don’t need to worry about it. If you are in a racial discussion like the one Colibri linked and you don’t notice a prolific poster in the same thread has made their race clear, why in the world should we extend you the benefit of the doubt that you choose to be clueless? Sorry, I mean "not notice personal information "? It really is safer to assume you are a lying troll.
But something similar was considered jerkish based upon the determination that personal information was known. I don’t keep a spreadsheet of who is who. I don’t even know who’s in the hive.
You sure talk about the hive a lot for someone who doesn’t know who’s in it.
notice then, in that thread? or retain that knowledge now?
I clearly did the former and not the latter, That’s just not what I do. Names, faces and personal info really do just drift out of my head once the immediate point has passed.
If you can’t believe that then I don’t know what to tell you. I have no doubt I have the same debate with the same people multiple times and certainly have no recollection of that specific thread.
Do you think I should be expected to remember such information from months ago?