From me to Louis C.K.: You can fuck off and die now

I know you are. But what am I?

There, was that so fucking hard?

Of course, it’s made laughable by the “I don’t see colour” bullshit that follows, but still, there it is.

it was neither hard nor necessary.

If your super-powers of recollection are what you claim them to be you’ll know that my position is this thread is perfectly consistent with what I said over the years. It hasn’t changed and it won’t change.

In this forum What someone says matters, their colour doesn’t not. I don’t assume it, I don’t need to know, I don’t pay attention to it and I don’t remember it.

Only took several posts of hedging. Not hard at all. And necessary or not, there it is.

It’s good you admit you’re close-minded. Not surprising at all, but good, anyway. Knowing is half the battle.

Yep, easy for you to say. One could even say it’s your privilege to do so.

Yes, we know, mind like a …thing, wire, you drain vegetables with it…

Wait. You mean you don’t maintain a database of every posters’ age, race, gender, sexuality, after tax income, star sign, medical history, and inside leg measurement?

Loser :wink:

I am close-minded to the possibility of being close-minded and I risk vanishing in a puff of logic.

Unfortunately my wife judged it “too creepy”.

She was like “yak, yak, yak, you shouldn’t be flying photo-drones over peoples houses” and “yak, yak, yak, tracking devices are illegal” and “nag nag nag, you shouldn’t steal and test DNA samples from people without their permission”

If only there were some middle ground between “creepy spreadsheets” and “Should really talk to my doctor about these early onset dementia symptoms”

Unfortunately, no such thing as “a normally functioning memory and a passing interest in people one interacts with regularly” has ever been shown to exist.

As far as the SDMB goes I don’t have an interest in the people, not in the slightest. Just the points they make. The personal stuff is disregarded and that has always been my way. It doesn’t interest me and it just never sticks. If there is a nugget that I will need I write it down. (Birthdays etc.).

I’m pretty astonished that you don’t know anyone else with that sort of memory. It isn’t uncommon and I’m surprised you’d even use the term “normal” in there.

One thing that I can do is to recall events and information through the prompting of music. Stevie Wonder’s “superstition” was playing as I drove with my wife to Alton Towers Theme park in 1992. Play me that song and I can mentally replay exactly where we were on that road.
Our holiday last year saw us driving through the Australian rainforest with “Cabin Pressure” on the stereo. Listening back to episodes now I can picture the location on the road where we were when various lines were spoken.

But no, I can’t, for certain, remember my brother’s birthdays without looking them up which is why I write them down. Memory is very wierd.

“trendy justice whoriors”

I always love this type of comment. You really think you’re the epitome of honest debate, well presenting yourself as such. But if you don’t actually digest the background of some posters, especially when it is part of their argument, you’re really just an idiot. I mean, I know you’re really just full of shit, but your shield is that of an idiot. I understand why you play it that way. Lots of lefties are in love with free speech/color blindness, so this bit gives you cover for the more credulous.

So you think one should discriminate? That’s actually more idiotic.

If their background is relevant to their point then it is up to them to mention it at that moment. I don’t assume it or remember it when the thread is gone however.

I’m a left leaning, small “L” liberal humanist and my posting record and previous comments are there for you to check if you want. Of course, you’ll have digested my background before making your accusation won’t you? Or, seeing as I’ve posted thousands of times over many years I can reasonably expect you to already have a good grasp of who I am and what I believe.

You wouldn’t be such a hypocrite as to not take my own background into account and at the same time accuse me of doing the same for other posters? That’d be very sloppy and dishonest of you.

One should notice, appreciate and remember things. If that’s not your thing, so be it.

I am not going to make an intense study of your background. I have my view of this thread and “humans are primates though surely” pretty much sealed the deal. My vague background impression of you as a well polished knob might have influenced.

Don’t know you well enough to know if you’re always a troll but that’s what I see here.

Yes. In the original meaning of the word.

Noting that different posters have different backgrounds isn’t idiotic.

Treating everyone as if they’re the same (and the model they’re all the same as is White Cis Hetrosexual Male.) is what’s idiotic.

Though you expect others to have done so?

That was my very specific response to the very confused post from Margin the implication of that being that you can never use the word “primate” in relation to humans…they said

which suggested they don’t think humans are primates. We are, we all are.

Fair enough but even that impression isn’t relevant to the truth or sincerity of what I say. It is for exactly that reason that I’m glad I don’t build up an impression of posters.

By the defintiion of troll used typically I’m never a troll. No games, no tricks or traps other than getting people to consider the consequences of what they are saying and reflecting it back on them. I do like getting clarity on what people mean and how they and I come to know what we think we know. Does it stack up? Is is reasonable? Can you plot a path from A to B?

That does involve challenging the opinions that people hold and sometimes not merely accept a position on face value. That can be confrontational but that’s fine. I don’t seek confrontation for the sake of it but leaving important questions unasked is ultimately not helpful. That’s my mindset and a fair chunk of my day job.

My very first contribution to to this thread was to do with a potential situation where an unreasonable expectation was being placed on posters. Yet, even then, right at the start, I was clear that the warning might be justified and that it was me that might be missing some information or history. It was clarity and explanation I was looking for not an exoneration of a potential racist slur.

Each individual can be plotted in space on a huge chart of overlapping and interacting bell curves of influences, experiences, beliefs and capabilities. Literally hundreds of them.
In my view, what is idiotic is to believe you know, in advance, which of those factors are most critical to any one individual.

I don’t pretend to. I do know what’s critical to me, and I judge others by their own posts. *Including *what I remember them posting regarding race, sexism, identity etc.

What I *don’t *pretend to do, is play an impersonal robot on the internet. Because that’s worse than idiotic, it’s lying to oneself.

Never said you did, and it wasn’t my intention to imply it. Some people do though, rather too many to my mind.

Exactly my approach.

and that part is where we differ. I don’t care what they’ve posted previously, I’m only bothered about the points they are making now. What they said previously is open to modification and change and may have been stated at a previous time under different conditions and in a different state of mind. They may simply have been flat-out lying and my recall of exactly what they said, in what context and with what nuance might equally be flat-out wrong.

I’ve seen far too many people swear blind that they heard/said/saw “X” when the facts are in complete contradiction

So what a poster thought and said then, may not be what they think and say now, I approach the discussions on the now. Every new thread might as well be a whole new set of posters to me. That isn’t everyone’s way but it is my way and always has been. It works for me.

I’m not “playing” or “pretending” anything. I’ve have neither the skill nor memory to keep up such a consistent approach over a decade. The simplest explanation is the true one. These are really my opinions and this is the honest way in which I approach the board.

Again, you seem to have a problem with someone having a different approach to you and an inability to accept that any other worldview other than yours is either possible or acceptable.