You certainly do have a high opinion of your judgment, that’s for damn sure.
Which is a good thing. It’d suck if nobody had any faith in you.
Assholes usually think that way.
You have a wife and two younger kids, and some drunk chick at a bar tempted you that much? Strange.
I call this “being a friend” and “keeping friends out of trouble”. Strange that you find that troubling.
“Just telling it like it is” is always such a telltale defence.
No, what’s clear-eyed and realistic is acknowledging that men who are constantly getting propositioned by hotbabes have more opportunity and temptation to engage in casual sex than men who are not. Nobody here is denying that in any way.
Where you go off the rails, morally speaking, is in assuming that having lots of opportunity and temptation somehow absolves a person from the obligation to behave ethically. That’s the part that you’re getting so much pushback on.
By your “logic”, it would be less morally objectionable for, say, a kindergarten principal in a big school district to molest little children than it would for, say, some unwashed derelict out in the boonies to put in weeks of effort to waylay and molest one of the very few little children in his neighborhood. Because look, the kindergarten principal is constantly surrounded by huge numbers of darling little kids and has tons of opportunities to abuse them! Surely he’s less morally culpable than the loser schmoe who actually had to work at being a molester! :rolleyes:
Yuck. No. Obviously, the perpetrator who has innumerable tempting opportunities is not less responsible for his vile behavior than the perpetrator who doesn’t.
And the same goes for other sexual transgressions as well. If having casual sex involves betraying somebody’s trust, or encouraging somebody who’s drunk to do something that you believe they’ll probably regret when sober, or violating any other ethical principle, then you are morally culpable for choosing to do that. Your moral culpability doesn’t change depending on the hotness of the person you chose to have sex with.
(That’s “you” in the abstract, by the way, because I’m not trying to criticize your own individual behavior in the RL incident you described. In that incident, by your own account, you did not accept the invitation to casual sex from a person who you suspected would later regret it. And presumably you and your wife are on the same wavelength concerning extramarital sex, as otherwise it would be unspeakably foolish of you to proclaim your willingness to commit adultery on a public messageboard under an alias that is identifiably connected, as other posters have previously noted, with your social-media presence.)
I think, in spite of possibly nearing his crest of virility, Slacker might be losing his mind. Has anyone else noticed? It’s like he is talking to people who aren’t there.
https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21512015#post21512015
:dubious: How about you just use words to explain how your comments are meant to fit in to the various issues being discussed? I don’t know about anyone else but knowing the purported classification of your personality isn’t very enlightening to me.
Yes, I saw what you said you’re NOT saying. I’m asking you to explain what you actually ARE saying. You made the point of detailing all the ways that “30 minutes” was astonishing to you. My question remains “so what?” “P not J” doesn’t help me.
He legitimately believes that Ignorance is Strength, and that not knowing what the fuck he’s talking about should present no impediment to issuing smug opinions about everything.
I’d think it was a satirical persona, but we’re in the weirdest timeline.
Are they? Interesting! I’m an ENTP; my son is an INTP like you. Is there a thread on this?
ETA: I told my wife before we got married that I wanted a “don’t ask, don’t tell, be discreet” policy, and she agreed.
If you’re going to spout shite pseudoscience could you at least be entertaining. Phrenology, maybe?
Oh jeez. :rolleyes: MBTI is based on a series of questions on a personality test. The idea that people with similar answers might have similar personalities is not “pseudoscience”. I agree that some of the ways they explain it are questionable, but I think the scores empirically group people in interesting ways regardless of whether its proponents really understand what’s happening inside the box.
Apologies to the OP for a sidetrack, but why am I not surprised you’d put stock in MBTI. It’s bollocks, shot to shit by studies time and again, resold as a pyramid scheme.
http://www.indiana.edu/~jobtalk/HRMWebsite/hrm/articles/develop/mbti.pdf
Apologies again to the OP for this sidetrack.
This is not like the vague platitudes in horoscopes that anyone can relate with. I’ve looked at most of the other types, and none come remotely close to describing me as well as:
But that’s all just a coincidence, I suppose. :rolleyes:
How so? I see nothing but vague platitudes in that quote.
Go ahead, find one of the other 15 types that describes a slacker “Debater” who relishes plunging into the fray as an underdog, heedless of how their “quarrelsome fun” may “burn bridges” in relentlessly challenging “the prevailing mode of thought”.
Let’s try one that has all the opposite letters as mine. It’s all bullshit, according to you, so that ought to come just as close. Okay, so ISFJ…
ISFJs “can always be relied on to get the job done on time. ISFJs take their responsibilities personally, consistently going above and beyond, doing everything they can to exceed expectations and delight others, at work and at home.”
Whoa, it’s uncanny! Like looking into a mirror…if it’s a magic mirror into Opposite World. :rolleyes:
“The challenge for ISFJs is ensuring that what they do is noticed. They have a tendency to underplay their accomplishments”
LMAO
“They may never be truly comfortable in the spotlight, and may feel guilty taking due credit for team efforts”
That’s me, always staying out of the limelight and letting others take credit 
I might be interested in a discussion of MBTI, but perhaps in another thread?
Sure, link me. 
I stumbled on this thread while searching for yet another thread in which Gary Kumquat misrepresented my views. Since the thread ended on a note of utter ignorance, a correction is in order, I think, even at this late date.
And Gary quotes from a page which has “The data indicate that there is no evidence of bimodal distributions for the MBTI.6 Instead, most people score between the two extremes. This means that although one person may score as an E, his or her test results may be very similar to those of another person’s, who scores as an I…”
Bimodal? Whose requirement was that?
So: You’re saying that the adjectives “tall” and “short” are useless, because most people are “average” and fall somewhere in between tall and short?
And you’re unaware that many or most MB tests report numbers: if you’re near the threshold between ‘E’ and ‘I’ you’ll be so informed?
Okay… I do feel better informed now about the quality of your views.
Let me give my own views on the MBTI. I was introduced to it decades ago by a girlfriend who was pursuing a Masters degree in a Psych field. If the “theory” had been “debunked” someone failed to inform her.
Don’t the police use something like “WMC (White Male Caucasian)” as shorthand for describing a suspect? Maybe not PC, and some “whites” have pretty dark skin, but it’s a convenient shorthand.
I pay little attention to MBTI — I take the test on a whim once every 2 or 3 decades, and don’t recall examining another’s test results except for afore-mentioned girlfriend.
Just as some “whites” have darker skin than other “whites”, of course there are some halfway between I and E, or halfway between J and P. (BTW, although I am INTp the p isn’t strong. But I differentiate myself from many Dopers who are clearly INTJ ! ) If each binary choice were made ternary, there’d be 81 types instead of 16 — unwieldly. (And the objection could still be raised: some people would be halfway between “I” and “Halfway” )
If people have made inflated claims about the utility of MBTI, take it up with them. I’d have completely forgotten about MBTI except that in a thread several years ago I found it interesting when we learned that a huge portion of Dopers were INTJ, despite that that type is rarish among the general population. (@ Gary Kumquat - Do you think that’s coincidence?)
So: Is MBTI an important part of my life? I go for many years at a time without thinking of it once!
Is MBTI a pseudo-science to be lumped with Astrology? That’s one of the stupidest and most bizarrely ignorant claims I’ve every heard in my life.
Something I would love to hear one of these guys say (though they of course would be able to make it funnier than I have):
When you’re first breaking into show business, all you hear is “no.” “You don’t have what it takes;” “You’re not what we’re looking for;” “Don’t call us, we’ll call you.” For years and years, just No after No after No. Some people hear it too many times and give up. Other people never stop hearing it, and keep trying anyway. And every now and then, maybe one time in a hundred thousand, you start to hear “Yes.” And my god, you needed that Yes. And, if you’re really lucky, you keep hearing “Yes,” and eventually, all you hear is “Yes.” And it’s amazing. This is rewarding on a primal level, your reptile brain basking in a sea of dopamine, getting everything it wants. And maybe you get to the point where you forget that “No” was ever a valid answer, that it was ever even an option, and that little reptile brain begins to grow. And it grows and grows and gets stronger and stronger, and it whispers those self-serving little lies in your ear: You deserve this. You earned this. You’re a T. rex now, and T. rex gets to do what he wants. And you have to fight that voice. You have to push back, you have to say “no, I’m in charge here, go back to the Cretaceous where you belong,” because if you don’t, that voice is going to let you do some terrible things. Not make you do them, and that’s the worst part, because at the end of the day, that little reptile brain is a part of you. You can do that if you’re strong and self-aware. I wasn’t. And that’s my fault.
Would it exonerate anybody? No. It’s an explanation, not an excuse. But it would make me more willing to listen to what they have to say, because it would show a level of introspection that none of these assholes have seemed capable of so far.